E. murinus Mature.. Hunt mouse!!

[_Gooty_]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsTxcCQF_4A

I'm so sorry to mouse..T.T

My T is missing to bite..;;

next thing is my duty...;

so I broked mouse's neck..;

[Tuotatis]

Hi!

I should before You give a mouse for your spider, kill the mouse. It's not good for the mouse and the spider too!

[RottweilExpress]

Horrible..

[Dev]

'gets the flame retardant handy'

[_Lange]

thats nice to lend a helping hand=)

[arachnophoria]

I think there should be laws against that kind of thing.I'm am very much okay with things being eaten and predators killing prey,but to offer a tarantula a live,adult mouse serves to purpose,but to entertain someone with a lack of several maturity skills.Offer prekilled mice,better yet none at all.Do remember that mice feel pain and seeing that poor creature struggle in fear and in agony should have bothered you,if not,well maybe you should seek counseling.Not trying to be a jerk...just really bothered by this kind of garbage.

[Fenrir]

I dont get it how does the venom not kill that mouse quick? :? Ive seen other vids where a T hits the mouse and within seconds its dead...

[Mizzrym]

Ahh, poor mouse...

<EDIT>

btw i think, mouse was too big for spider.

[Merfolk]

Saditsic would be to let the mouse suffer for long hours. Indeed they are fast kills, but when it takes longer, better shorten the animal's suffering.

Cold blooded verts (frogs, small lizards) don't feel pain the same way than warm blooded ones, they are far better suited for T digestion and the venom is also designed to subdue cold blooded preys.

[Truff135]

I'm not able to stream the video at work but from reading the posts, whatever it was must have been sick. T's shouldn't be fed live mice, I highly doubt that their venom is strong enough for it. The only ones that can maybe eat live mammals like that would maybe be t.blondi's. I have heard that they are capable of eating small birds and there are some avic pictures I've seen where they are eating a bat. So while it was bad enough that this happened, the mouse could easily have also attacked the t out of defense and could have killed it. Not a smart move man. :mad: :wall: :shame:

[GOMER113]

I can't speak for the threadstarter and guess what their intentions were, but this did not look like it was made for the sole purpose of entertainment. It could have been for the T owner's own education (and that of any viewers of the video) on feeding a T a live mouse.

By the responses offered, I'm sure some people now know that the mouse was too big for the T. A fully grown mouse is much too big even for some snakes and a pinkie mouse would have sufficed.

I'm not opposed at all to feeding live animals other than bugs and insects, but proper research prior to feeding a T anything other than crickets should be made. One of the things that I found fascinating prior to buying my first T was the fact that they can eat mice and frogs. I fed nothing but crickets the first couple of weeks I had my first T and then I thought about feeding it a mouse. By doing research, I learned that there are pros and cons to feeding a pinkie mouse and that some people do it sparingly and others don't do it at all because of their own feelings toward it, the smell afterward, etc.

I'm sure some people won't see it this way, but the T's owner did show mercy to the mouse by breaking its neck 2 minutes into the video. It could have gone on much longer than that. The T caught the mouse while it was alive and it died in its fangs, which is good enough for a predatory animal. It probably wouldn't have done anything if it had found the mouse already dead, whether frozen and thawed or freshly killed.

[dtknow]

The mouse could have also turned around and removed a leg or two....killing the spider.

[_Lange]

The mouse could have also turned around and removed a leg or two....killing the spider.

Yes. I'd say the mouse had a pretty fair chance.

[davros]

It is <EDIT> like this that animal rights people will use to help get the hobby banned.

Plus it is a fine example of exactly why it is illegal here in the UK to feed our pets with live vertibrate prey.

Mal.

[Sabatta]

That was mean. Next time feed it something of a more appropriate size or get a larger species of spider.

[AlainL]

wow.... you guys took this way to seriously.

Ya, and you can see that guy is not taking this hobby seriously, I hate people like this, someone who love tarantulas would of never done this.

all the idiots who feed adult mice to there t's, make them smoke pot(one guy on this board did this and I won't say who it is), all these people should not own animals cause clearly there not mature enough.

[UrbanJungles]

I can't speak for the threadstarter and guess what their intentions were, but this did not look like it was made for the sole purpose of entertainment. It could have been for the T owner's own education (and that of any viewers of the video) on feeding a T a live mouse.

I'm sure some people won't see it this way, but the T's owner did show mercy to the mouse by breaking its neck 2 minutes into the video. It could have gone on much longer than that. The T caught the mouse while it was alive and it died in its fangs, which is good enough for a predatory animal. It probably wouldn't have done anything if it had found the mouse already dead, whether frozen and thawed or freshly killed.

1st- If you are going to post an "educational" video make sure you are not doig something stupid. If he had done it correctly he would have broken the mouse's neck BEFORE placing it in with the T. Most T's will readily take a pre-killed or even thawed mouse...T's have been found int eh wild feeding on carrion so I doubt she would have ignored a prekilled mouse.

There is NO justification for feeding a mouse in that manner. Not only is it inhumane but as an irresponsible pet owner he deliberately put his T in alot of danger...the mouse could easily have done some fatal damage.

No excuse...<EDIT>

[cacoseraph]

Saditsic would be to let the mouse suffer for long hours. Indeed they are fast kills, but when it takes longer, better shorten the animal's suffering.

Cold blooded verts (frogs, small lizards) don't feel pain the same way than warm blooded ones, they are far better suited for T digestion and the venom is also designed to subdue cold blooded preys.

you always say this type of thing. what evidence are you basing this off of? mainly the digestion thing, i am curious about

[Kugellager]

Yup...It's that time again. Time to end yet another thread on live prey.

Locked!

John
Arachnoboards
];')