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jek
12-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Hi, I live in Brazil and it's summer now, so sometimes there're mosquitos in my room and they are pretty anoying when you are trying to sleep.
I usually plug one of those insect repellent devices to keep the mosquitos away.
But my T's terrarium is in my room and I'd like to know if it is safe to use the repellent without harming my T.
Thanx

Talkenlate04
12-09-2007, 08:35 PM
I would think that the chemical that would be killing and deterring the mosquitoes would also be messing with the tarantula on some level, especially if it has deet, which most of those products have.


DEET is an effective solvent, and may dissolve (part of) some plastics, rayon, spandex, other synthetic fabrics, leather, and painted or varnished surfaces

Even if it does not have deet I still think you are safer taking a few bites from the flies then letting that thing operate near your tarantula because the whole idea of it is to use a chemical deterrent .

-Sarah-
12-09-2007, 08:41 PM
Hi, I live in Brazil and it's summer now, so sometimes there're mosquitos in my room and they are pretty anoying when you are trying to sleep.
I usually plug one of those insect repellent devices to keep the mosquitos away.
But my T's terrarium is in my room and I'd like to know if it is safe to use the repellent without harming my T.
Thanx

I've heard that marigold flowers are excellent for repelling mosquitoes, but I'm not sure of what they might do to a tarantula... I've also heard vanilla being used as a repellent for biting insects, but I'm not quite sure what that would do, either. My mother used to have these electronic things plugged in the walls that were supposed to keep mice, insects and spiders away (they supposedly emit some high-frequency noise... :confused: seems useless except for mice, maybe) but all of those have been unplugged since I started keeping tarantulas. I hope you find a solution soon! Mosquitoes are so irritating! :wall:

-Sara

jek
12-09-2007, 08:49 PM
yeah...I think I'll just kill the mosquitos myself and close the windows at night...

David Burns
12-09-2007, 11:28 PM
How about a Bug Zapper, it attracts flying insects and kills with electricity.

Talkenlate04
12-09-2007, 11:35 PM
How about a Bug Zapper, it attracts flying insects and kills with electricity.

They are fun to watch to! That's a great idea! :clap:

robbie
12-10-2007, 12:31 AM
I agree go with the bug zapper, it will also make a great night light.{D

verry_sweet
12-10-2007, 08:42 AM
How about a Bug Zapper, it attracts flying insects and kills with electricity.

Those aren’t any good :shame: they kill indiscriminately and a lot more beneficial insects get fried than the targeted pest.

Hedorah99
12-10-2007, 09:20 AM
Those aren’t any good :shame: they kill indiscriminately and a lot more beneficial insects get fried than the targeted pest.

Actually I think I read something like 95% more beneficial and harmless insects are killed than pest species.

DrAce
12-10-2007, 10:32 AM
DEET is a bad idea. It is likely to be bad for the spider.

Marigolds contain pyrethrin chemicals, which are 'natural' insect repellants (and insecticides) and my understanding is that these primarilly affect insects, not spiders. I believe it interacts with the spiricles on the insect, which tarantulas lack.

138
12-10-2007, 10:53 AM
Hi, I live in Brazil and it's summer now, so sometimes there're mosquitos in my room and they are pretty anoying when you are trying to sleep.
I usually plug one of those insect repellent devices to keep the mosquitos away.
But my T's terrarium is in my room and I'd like to know if it is safe to use the repellent without harming my T.
Thanx

Damselflies(sp?), Dragonflies and/or fly paper. i read this not too long ago too...

“We think that cinnamon oil might also affect adult mosquitoes by acting as a repellant,” Chang says. The researchers haven’t yet tested this theory, but they plan to find out in the near future.

The Council of Agriculture of the Executive Yuan, a government agency in Taiwan, provided support for this research.

Drachenjager
12-10-2007, 12:20 PM
How about a Bug Zapper, it attracts flying insects and kills with electricity.

they don't attract mosquitoes very well tho. Mosquitoes are attracted by CO2
if you had a bug zapper with no light , and leaked a small amount of CO2 in there, it should be great for skeeters and very little else.

Cheshire
12-10-2007, 12:36 PM
Even if it does not have deet I still think you are safer taking a few bites from the flies then letting that thing operate near your tarantula because the whole idea of it is to use a chemical deterrent .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria

Have you tried citronella?

Talkenlate04
12-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Oh ya I guess I should have taken note of the country he was from. Might be a slightly higher risk for something nasty.

Do they practice spraying to kill the larva like we do here in the US?

DrAce
12-10-2007, 01:00 PM
Sao Paulo is actually reasonably safe in terms of Malaria. Yellow Fever or, more significantly for Sao Paulo and Rio, Dengue are both distinct possibilities.

Fortunately, Sao Paulo is a big centre with a decent medical infrastructure to deal with these diseases.

This message repeats in Portguese (I think... I'm a terrible portuguese speaker):
Bem vindo à Arachnoboards, jek. Descupe para meu Portuguese mau, mas aqui tem um poucos Brasileros. Talvez têm o conselho melhor para você, certamente mais experiência com seu problemas.

Godzirra
02-22-2009, 09:51 AM
You should consider safer methods, such as - a mosquito net hanging over your bed,
there are plenty of natural ways to keep away mosquitoes and targetted bugs

http://www.eartheasy.com/live_natpest_control.htm

An effective natural bug repellent, mix one part garlic juice with 5 parts water in a small spray bottle. Shake well before using. Spray lightly on exposed body parts for an effective repellent lasting up to 5 - 6 hours. Strips of cotton cloth can also be dipped in this mixture and hung in areas, such as patios, as a localized deterrent.

http://doubledanger.com/pictures/simple-organic-ways-to-repel-mosquitoes

Catnip - It isn’t just for cat toys anymore. This plant, we are finding out… is more powerful at repelling mosquitoes than DEET! Be sure to plant some in and around your patio or pool area to keep those biting bugs away. Of course if you keep some of this handy and dry it out, you can give it to your kitties when you need to occupy them for about a MILLION HOURS!

http://www.ehow.com/how_4621314_natural-ways-keep-mosquitoes-away.html

Natural Ways to Keep Mosquitoes Away

Nerri1029
02-22-2009, 10:36 AM
You should consider safer methods, such as - a mosquito net hanging over your bed,
there are plenty of natural ways to keep away mosquitoes and targetted bugs

http://www.eartheasy.com/live_natpest_control.htm


http://doubledanger.com/pictures/simple-organic-ways-to-repel-mosquitoes


http://www.ehow.com/how_4621314_natural-ways-keep-mosquitoes-away.html

Finally someone mentioned it..
I was hoping to be the first but glad I wasn't.

Bill S
02-22-2009, 06:44 PM
OK. I'll add a few thoughts, even though some have already been touched on.

Repellent killing tarantulas - Repellents are not the same as insecticides. They repel, not kill. They repel generally by messing up the ability of a parasitic insect (mosquito) to detect its prey. By itself, this would not be likely to damage your tarantulas (I'm assuming you are not planning on spraying the repellent on the tarantulas), but the scent might be annoying enough to them to disrupt their feeding or create other stresses. Personally, I've never found repellents to be particularly effective on a long-term basis anyway. I'd vote against using them. (And there are lots of repellents besides DEET-based ones.)

Bug Zapper - these are only useful for killing insects that are drawn to lights. (Usually a UV bulb is used as the "bait".) Mosquitos are not drawn to light. This means the bug zapper will have no direct effect on your mosquito population - except to possibly boost it once you've killed off the "good" insects that might otherwise prey on the mosquitos. I'd vote against this as well.

Mosquito Netting - This gets my vote. Easy to use, clean, physical barrier that will keep mosquitos away from your bed. Will also help keep kissing bugs away from your bed, if you happen to live in an area that has them. (I do, and I'm more concerned with them than with mosquitos.)

Probably the best thing you can do, though, is make sure your house is adequately sealed up to keep mosquitos out. Screens on doors and windows (in good repair). Don't leave doors and windows open to allow mosquitos in. Don't have tall grasses near the house (mosquitos hide in them during the day). Don't have large bushes and potted plants near the outside of your doors and windows (same reason as for tall grasses). If you have any standing water near the house, empty it. Fish ponds are good, if you have small mosquito-eating fish in them. If you have standing water near the house that you cannot empty - there's a bacteria that can be introduced that kills mosquito larvae. It's commercially available in a number of forms in the U.S. If you can - encourage a colony of bats to live near your house. Small bats like Myotis are great on mosquitos. And bat colonies are easy to establish. (We've got a colony of Pallid bats that roost on my front porch - unfortuntely, they eat scorpions and centipedes - among other things - rather than mosquitos.)

pinktoe23
02-22-2009, 09:05 PM
OK. I'll add a few thoughts, even though some have already been touched on.

Repellent killing tarantulas - Repellents are not the same as insecticides. They repel, not kill. They repel generally by messing up the ability of a parasitic insect (mosquito) to detect its prey. By itself, this would not be likely to damage your tarantulas (I'm assuming you are not planning on spraying the repellent on the tarantulas), but the scent might be annoying enough to them to disrupt their feeding or create other stresses. Personally, I've never found repellents to be particularly effective on a long-term basis anyway. I'd vote against using them. (And there are lots of repellents besides DEET-based ones.)

Bug Zapper - these are only useful for killing insects that are drawn to lights. (Usually a UV bulb is used as the "bait".) Mosquitos are not drawn to light. This means the bug zapper will have no direct effect on your mosquito population - except to possibly boost it once you've killed off the "good" insects that might otherwise prey on the mosquitos. I'd vote against this as well.

Mosquito Netting - This gets my vote. Easy to use, clean, physical barrier that will keep mosquitos away from your bed. Will also help keep kissing bugs away from your bed, if you happen to live in an area that has them. (I do, and I'm more concerned with them than with mosquitos.)

Probably the best thing you can do, though, is make sure your house is adequately sealed up to keep mosquitos out. Screens on doors and windows (in good repair). Don't leave doors and windows open to allow mosquitos in. Don't have tall grasses near the house (mosquitos hide in them during the day). Don't have large bushes and potted plants near the outside of your doors and windows (same reason as for tall grasses). If you have any standing water near the house, empty it. Fish ponds are good, if you have small mosquito-eating fish in them. If you have standing water near the house that you cannot empty - there's a bacteria that can be introduced that kills mosquito larvae. It's commercially available in a number of forms in the U.S. If you can - encourage a colony of bats to live near your house. Small bats like Myotis are great on mosquitos. And bat colonies are easy to establish. (We've got a colony of Pallid bats that roost on my front porch - unfortuntely, they eat scorpions and centipedes - among other things - rather than mosquitos.)


This is really good information! :worship:

To the OP I had the same problem when sharing a student apt with 3 other roommates and had no air conditioner or screens in the windows. I also kept my T's in my room like you. Brasil temperatures are very similar to ours and imo I don't think you will like the mosquito net if you don't have adequate ventilation in your room. It does works very well blocking insects but because the screen also limits the air around your bed it will get hotter and you'll hate it. The net sucked because I only had a window in my room and a small fan so I just ended up just buying an odorless insect repellent at the supermarket and would lightly spray and pat it directly in my hands, arms and legs outside of our apt and would let it dry completely for 2-4 minutes. It would work up to 8 hours and I never observed any side effects nor deaths in my t's because of it.

Ps: There is an insect repellent that also comes as a lotion (this would be the best option) but if you can't find it just buy the spray and apply it to your skin always outside your home and wait until completely absorbed. Hope this can help you.

Bill S
02-23-2009, 08:14 AM
Brasil temperatures are very similar to ours and imo I don't think you will like the mosquito net if you don't have adequate ventilation in your room. It does works very well blocking insects but because the screen also limits the air around your bed it will get hotter and you'll hate it.

Good point. The netting does slow down the air flow. If hanging it in a small area around your bed is uncomfortable, there may be alternatives. In my case I have an entryway into the house from the front door, and I hang mosquito netting there to separate the entryway from the rest of the house. At night during the warm months of the year I only go into and out of the house using that door. Any mosquitos or kissing bugs that come in through the door when I open it get stopped by the mosquito netting. I can kill them there in the entryway before they get into the house. And that way the netting doesn't interfere with the airflow from a fan or cooler.

Maybe you could also hang it over your bedroom door.

Pinktoe - where is Bayamón? My wife's father is from Mayaguez

Radamanthys
02-23-2009, 09:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria

Have you tried citronella?

Malaria, such as yellow fever is much more of a forest disease. São Paulo is the biggest city in South America, there is no malaria there! There is a small to medium risk of dengue fever, but not so much. Why everybody think in Brazil we are apes that live in trees and forests are everywhere?



Oh ya I guess I should have taken note of the country he was from. Might be a slightly higher risk for something nasty.

Do they practice spraying to kill the larva like we do here in the US?
Same as above to Talken, but with an extra that yes, they do spraying and population education to control the mosquitoes. That last isn't so effective because... Well, because most brazilians are as stubborn as a mule. If they say a rock is bread, they it the rock just to prove it. What can we do...


Sao Paulo is actually reasonably safe in terms of Malaria. Yellow Fever or, more significantly for Sao Paulo and Rio, Dengue are both distinct possibilities.

Fortunately, Sao Paulo is a big centre with a decent medical infrastructure to deal with these diseases.

This message repeats in Portguese (I think... I'm a terrible portuguese speaker):
Bem vindo à Arachnoboards, jek. Descupe para meu Portuguese mau, mas aqui tem um poucos Brasileros. Talvez têm o conselho melhor para você, certamente mais experiência com seu problemas.

Thank you Ace for the correct information. The medical infrastructure isn't just decent, is very good in terms of private treatment. The public system is bad :wall:. But we can save you from the malaria if you need, but don't count too much on surviving a car wreck.

And your phrase would be: Bem vindo aos Arachnoboards, Jek. Desculpe meu mau português, mas aqui há poucos brasileiros. Talvez tenham um conselho melhor para você, certamente com mais experiências nestes problemas.

To the OP (I would post in portuguese but is againts the rules), the mosquito net is probably the best solution. Repellents are smell too bad and doesn't work for more than 1, maybe 2 hours. The inseticides, we don't know what they would do to a T. Better safe than sorry. Closing the window doesn't work, i know :wall:. The net is the best option.