Another Lycosidae ID

[Raikiri]

Hi,

could you please ID these 4 Lycosidae species?

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5628/specimen1af3.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4049/specimen2pa3.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6323/specimen3zg1.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/492/specimen4cv9.jpg

[ErikWestblom]

Could be way off, but aren't those the same species all four? Coloration varies within species a lot in the lycosidae family.

Location could be helpful, right now we don't even know what continent they are from...

[Raikiri]

yeah could be, I wanted to write specimen, just I was too tired. I have not much knowledge of Lycosidae spp. but I think they could be 2 different species or subspieces. There's no doubt that the first and the third as well as the second and the fourth is the same species. I was told that it was found in Europe.

[ErikWestblom]

Ok. Well, it could be either of L. tarantula or L. narbonensis, or even some other species that looks kind of the same.

[Raikiri]

Thanks a lot! So are these Lycosa sp. for sure or could belong to other genus? Could they be Hogna sp?

[ErikWestblom]

My guess is L. tarantula, L. narbonensis or some close relative. They both get to about that size, and coloration and pattern matches photos I've seen of them. They are both plentiful in the Mediterranean area in southern Europe.

[Raikiri]

Yeah, that's right, but I'm quite sure it wasn't captured in southern Europe, it was in middle Europe. I have just a little knowledge of Lycosidae sp. but I firstly thought it is H. radiata. Sorry if it's obviously not...

[ErikWestblom]

After seeing some pics of H. radiata, my guess is as good as yours :)