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Arachnosold1er
08-28-2008, 09:28 AM
Just trying to see what the popular method is.

crpy
08-28-2008, 09:37 AM
It does not get cold often here, but when it does I put a heating pad under one end of the enclosure and dampen that end.

aluras
08-28-2008, 09:41 AM
I use a moon light, Like a black light, They barly give off any heat, they are like 40-60wt and I only turn them on at night. It helps keep them around 80-83 but you gotta keep them misted and waterd. my house is warm enough in the day time to not bother with anything.

fartkowski
08-28-2008, 09:43 AM
I have an oil filled heater in my T room. I don't use it in the summer, but during the colder months I keep it between 70 to 75.

xhexdx
08-28-2008, 09:43 AM
Unless you get below 65 degrees (I believe this is the standard), you don't need to provide heat.

Once winter comes I'll just up the heat in the entire house. The spiders won't need their own heat source.

cheetah13mo
08-28-2008, 09:45 AM
My house never gets below 69 and all my T's are upstairs so I don't have any suplimental heat source.

crpy
08-28-2008, 09:46 AM
I never use the house heat anymore, it just dries everything out too much, it got so dry I mistook my 7 year old daughter for my gramma.

Brian S
08-28-2008, 09:52 AM
I put them in my scorpion room which is heated by a ceramic heater

Arachnosold1er
08-28-2008, 10:12 AM
Wow, Not what I was expecting. I keep all of my Ts in my spare room and just shut off the vent in the summer when I run the A/C. It stays near 80.

Sooner
08-28-2008, 10:40 AM
I've been trying to breed tarantulas with rabbits in an effort to produce warm-blooded tarantulas with sharp pointy teeth. Then I don't have to worry about keeping them warm. But I'm only getting really fat tarantulas. :confused:

{D

I have 2 south facing windows that keeps the room in mid 70s in winter.

gvfarns
08-28-2008, 10:49 AM
In the winter when my house is colder than I want the T's exposed to I use 25 watt red party bulbs. Tried the heat mat thing. It doesn't work very well and it's expensive and inconvenient. So throw in a vote for red lamps.

dragon_95
08-28-2008, 10:57 AM
if it gets cold then i put the heater on for the entire house .

the nature boy
08-28-2008, 10:58 AM
space heater. good model, has thermostat which has proved to be accurate and keeps the T room at exactly what I'd like it to be.

--the nature boy

Edrick
08-28-2008, 11:37 AM
My T room is my basement im unsure how cold it will get down there since i just moved in, but here in montana in the winter months it can get really cold just wondering if there is any really good ideas, if heating pads what kind if light bulb how much heat do they produce and what about just an old iguana heat rock???:?

clam1991
08-28-2008, 11:42 AM
well i usually have heat mats on almost every tank
and when it gets really cold on my porch i use a space heater
especially at night

ThistleWind
08-28-2008, 12:00 PM
They just sit in the house and if I'm warm, they're warm. :)

Mina
08-28-2008, 12:01 PM
Each one has it own hand made cable knit sweater. :D
Honestly, we don't do anything special. They live at the temperature we do.

the nature boy
08-28-2008, 12:08 PM
My T room is my basement im unsure how cold it will get down there since i just moved in, but here in montana in the winter months it can get really cold just wondering if there is any really good ideas, if heating pads what kind if light bulb how much heat do they produce and what about just an old iguana heat rock???:?

Get a good space heater, one where you can set the temperature. You can buy ones these days that are fairly small and not expensive (I think I got mine on sale for about $40). Heating pads are a bad idea for a number of reasons, but what they cost and dealing with all the cords is reason alone to go space heater.

SNAFU
08-28-2008, 12:10 PM
Each one has it own hand made cable knit sweater. :D
Honestly, we don't do anything special. They live at the temperature we do.

ROTFL;) . Yep, same here. I do keep most of my T's in the spare room that also houses my pc, Xbox360 and other toys. I keep the a/c vent and the door closed to that room in the summer and it stays about 75-78f. In the cooler months of course we have the whole house heated. No extra heat needed this time of year.

mwh9
08-28-2008, 12:32 PM
I am still hearing people saying that they put the heat mats under the tank. That is a big no no! :shame: If you use them, and I do, always place them on the side or back. It's better to put them on one end, that way the T can have a warm end and a cool one. Heating the room is still a better idea and the oil filled heaters are the best for that.

crpy
08-28-2008, 12:34 PM
I am still hearing people saying that they put the heat mats under the tank. That is a big no no! :shame: If you use them, and I do, always place them on the side or back. It's better to put them on one end, that way the T can have a warm end and a cool one. Heating the room is still a better idea and the oil filled heaters are the best for that.

Just a question, why not the bottom at one end:?

Edrick
08-28-2008, 12:41 PM
OK and what about heating bulbs that are low light or covered?

mwh9
08-28-2008, 12:45 PM
Because the instructions said not to. {D No really, it makes for a larger temp difference in the tank. I have often seen my T's go to the wall that the mat is on and sit for a while as if to warm up. Also by placing the mat on the end, I can mist that side and produce a greater amount of humidity without wetting more of the tank. Almost all of my T's like higher humidity.

xhexdx
08-28-2008, 12:46 PM
Just a question, why not the bottom at one end:?

You'll end up with a cooked spider.

I don't think spiders are that advanced so they can accurately gauge their own body temperature.

Again, why waste the money on heat mats when they're comfortable at the same temps we are? If we're ok, they're ok.

crpy
08-28-2008, 12:52 PM
You'll end up with a cooked spider.

I don't think spiders are that advanced so they can accurately gauge their own body temperature.

Again, why waste the money on heat mats when they're comfortable at the same temps we are? If we're ok, they're ok.

I've done it under one end no problems,.... BUT..., Im not here to argue I think the advise is sound, it could happen so I'll change it.

I dont use the heat and house gets very cold some nights so I'm not comfy, for three weeks or so I heat em.

vincent.shaw
08-28-2008, 12:53 PM
all my t's are in my bedroom. It is usually at a constant temperature of 25C or 77F. in the winter it gets quite chilly so i just stick the central heating on.. seems to the do the trick. :)

mwh9
08-28-2008, 12:59 PM
The heat mats that I use are the Zoo-med kind and only raise the temp about 5 degrees. I really don't need or have to have them. My T's are in the basement and it is a little cooler down there. It does seem to make them more active. The room stays at about 69 to 70 degrees, the mats raise the temp to about 75 degrees.

xhexdx
08-28-2008, 01:03 PM
I've done it under one end no problems,.... BUT..., Im not here to argue I think the advise is sound, it could happen so I'll change it.

I dont use the heat and house gets very cold some nights so I'm not comfy, for three weeks or so I heat em.

As long as you're paying attention and being smart about it, there shouldn't be an issue either way.

Travis K
08-28-2008, 01:06 PM
I use a moon light, Like a black light, They barly give off any heat, they are like 40-60wt and I only turn them on at night. It helps keep them around 80-83 but you gotta keep them misted and waterd. my house is warm enough in the day time to not bother with anything.

if you are using incandescent then it gets really hot, I would not use this to heat Ts, I do use them to heat my leopard geckos though.

scottyk
08-28-2008, 01:09 PM
One of the dangers of putting a mat under the entire tank is it can also make the enclosure overly dry and dessicate your tarantula. A well watched mat under half of the tank, or on the side as some have mentioned will probably be fine if the temps are low enough to requre it.

The dessication problem would also apply to bulbs and heat lamps. I would not try that on a tarantula...

wsimms
08-28-2008, 01:22 PM
The only one I heat is my blondi, and I use a mat along with a Tropicaire unit to prevent dessication. She stays at 77, the rest stay at 70-72. I personally wouldn't do supplemental heat without supplemental moisture. It's a recipe for disaster.

mwh9
08-28-2008, 01:38 PM
My T. blondie has a humidifier as well as a heat mat. I just built a bunch of humidifiers, they work just like the Tropicaire but, they were almost free to make. Here is a link to the instructions.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&id=53

wsimms
08-28-2008, 01:40 PM
My T. blondie has a humidifier as well as a heat mat. I just built a bunch of humidifiers, they work just like the Tropicaire but, they were almost free to make. Here is a link to the instructions.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&id=53

Glad you weighed in. My Tropicaire was around $20, and I don't see how it would work any better than your freebie.

mwh9
08-28-2008, 01:44 PM
I still had to buy an air pump but, I had most every thing else but the air stones, they are cheep enough.

clam1991
08-28-2008, 02:32 PM
well i use mats on most of my ts but i do check them almost every hour
and since their one the porch it gets kinda cold
i also use a space heater
do u think keeping the space heater on at night would be enough?:confused:

mwh9
08-28-2008, 02:58 PM
I would not let the temp get any lower than 65 degrees. I know they can survive lower temps for a while, I just would not put them through that though.

Medicinewolf
08-28-2008, 08:56 PM
"I don't think spiders are that advanced so they can accurately gauge their own body temperature."

Don'tcha think they'd cook themselves if they could not gauge their temperature? Or freeze into a crinkled cube?? EVERY living thing has got to have a sense of temperature of one sort or another.

I'm a total fan of the 25 watt red party lights. I have one over each of my tarantula tanks on one edge, so they can move away if they are wanting more cool. I live in a very humid environment, so I don't worry much about my girls mummifying. The girls like to party down under the red lights with a Bug Lite now and again.

I also believe that although Ts can live at cooler temperatures, if this were optimal, then we'd see more of them up trekking up north. I want my Ts to have temps approaching their natural environs. And the red lights provide nice tank viewing, as well.

crpy
08-28-2008, 09:03 PM
The thing is heat pads have a thermo switch= lo, med. high, I keep mine on med and the tank (ten gal) is perfect. no cooky no crispy:D

sn95
08-28-2008, 09:21 PM
I keep fish as well as the T's, so the room they are in stays roughly 76ish all year round with the fish tanks acting like big space heaters. Helps with humidity a little too.

Arachnosold1er
08-28-2008, 09:39 PM
I agree with Medicinewolf. Im not aware of any tarantulas migrating to canada for the summer to stay cool. Although they can do just fine at 65F, I try to keep mine as close to a tropical enviroment as possible. After all, that is where most of them come from. Also, because most of us keep out Ts indoors, the T misses a lot of natures "signals" to do certain things. Like molt, breed, fast, and so on. Yearly temp and light changes affect how a T acts. Knowing this, I try to help my Ts out by lowering the temp in their room in the winter and raising it in the summer. I also give them a shorter photoperiod in the winter to further mimic the seasons.

I just try to make it as natural as I can for them.

tabor
08-29-2008, 12:43 AM
I feel like I've made like 5 videos on heat lamps by now, but this is how I heat them long term inside (80-85F) is what I keep most my T's and scorps at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVEiO3o_iio

xhexdx
08-29-2008, 01:10 PM
"I don't think spiders are that advanced so they can accurately gauge their own body temperature."

Don'tcha think they'd cook themselves if they could not gauge their temperature? Or freeze into a crinkled cube?? EVERY living thing has got to have a sense of temperature of one sort or another.

I'm a total fan of the 25 watt red party lights. I have one over each of my tarantula tanks on one edge, so they can move away if they are wanting more cool. I live in a very humid environment, so I don't worry much about my girls mummifying. The girls like to party down under the red lights with a Bug Lite now and again.

I also believe that although Ts can live at cooler temperatures, if this were optimal, then we'd see more of them up trekking up north. I want my Ts to have temps approaching their natural environs. And the red lights provide nice tank viewing, as well.

Do you keep your tarantulas exactly how they're kept in the wild? Are they allowed to make deep burrows? Do you have live plants in there? Do they have a hide and do you provide 'realistic' sunlight?

Until you provide a 100% natural habitat, you can't say that using a heat lamp or heat mat or heat of any source is a positive thing.

Yes, tarantulas can gauge their body temperature and move to a location that will keep them where they need to be. In the case of a burrower, they have long, deep burrows so they can stay in the section that is the temp they need. Again, do you provide that for them?

The thing I don't understand about everyone is why they feel the need to provide external heat unless it's absolutely necessary. Unless below 65 degrees, there is NO need for it. It's an unnecessary risk and on top of that it's expensive to maintain.

Arachnosold1er
08-29-2008, 01:54 PM
Actually, I do allow them to make deep burrows.(Deeper than most. About 1'-1'6".) I do use live plants with all organic potting soil for subtrate in all of my enclosures. And they all have hides or burrows. And yes they get all natural 100% sunlight every morning that comes in through the windows in my T room. I am not a fan of mats or lights. But NOTHING in captivity is kept like it is in the wild. Thats why they call it CAPTIVITY. How do YOU keep your Ts? Bet it aint perfect! Nobodys setup is perfect. If you are so worried about natural go let yours back to the wild.

"Until you provide a 100% natural habitat, you can't say that using a heat lamp or heat mat or heat of any source is a positive thing."

Until YOU provide a 100% natural habitat, you cant say its a negative thing!


I didnt start this thread so people could argue over what method if any is better. I was just wondering what the poular method is IF you feel that your Ts need some kind of additional heat source. If anyone wants to argue the subject, PM me and I will start another thread, or go make your own.

Krazy Kat
08-29-2008, 01:58 PM
space heater. good model, has thermostat which has proved to be accurate and keeps the T room at exactly what I'd like it to be.

--the nature boy

I use the same method and it works well...

hairmetalspider
08-29-2008, 03:57 PM
Each one has it own hand made cable knit sweater. :D
Honestly, we don't do anything special. They live at the temperature we do.

I have the cutest image of a little Smithi with an Argyle sweater on.

*Sigh*

Skullptor
08-29-2008, 04:37 PM
The heat machine!