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ScottySalticid
09-28-2008, 11:22 PM
Is this Araneus cavaticus???

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb258/FalconPunch19/CommonSpider.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb258/FalconPunch19/CommonSpider4.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb258/FalconPunch19/CommonSpider2.jpg

Photobucket is being incredibly lame right now, but I'l get a dorsal shot of the spider uploaded and posted soon.
tarantula3898
09-28-2008, 11:40 PM
My official I.D. is that it's a spider. It's about all I got with this bad photo.
tarantula3898
09-28-2008, 11:42 PM
And on that last photo it looks like a smiley face on the, "Spider's," abdomen.
ScottySalticid
09-29-2008, 12:22 AM
My official I.D. is that it's a spider. It's about all I got with this bad photo.

lol at you expecting quality from a 2 megapixel camera. and that smiley is common on Araneus

dorsal view. the jar distorts her a bit

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb258/FalconPunch19/CommonSpideragain.jpg
cjm1991
09-29-2008, 01:32 AM
Yeah its a Araneus sp. 100% im pretty sure your right.
crpy
09-29-2008, 07:38 AM
100% Araneus, 99.9% Banded orb (Neoscona crucifera)
jeff h
10-01-2008, 12:30 AM
This is not an Araneus, it is a Neoscona sp.
ScottySalticid
10-01-2008, 12:35 AM
This is not an Araneus, it is a Neoscona sp.

care to explain the difference?
cjm1991
10-01-2008, 12:40 AM
This is not an Araneus, it is a Neoscona sp.

I think I have to disagree though this is not my place to. But after looking at pics of Araneus abdomen and looking at this pic they look identical. I may be wrong though so correct me if I am.
crpy
10-01-2008, 12:38 PM
I think I have to disagree though this is not my place to. But after looking at pics of Araneus abdomen and looking at this pic they look identical. I may be wrong though so correct me if I am.

No, I meant Araneidae (the fricken family)not Araneus (another genus), It is Neoscona however.
Slip of the type and...*sigh* jeff h is correct lol
ScottySalticid
10-01-2008, 02:00 PM
So what is it that makes it a Neoscona? Is there a distinct feature that is present in the genus?
Venom
10-01-2008, 02:42 PM
Neoscona are slightly hairier, IMO. But it is a Neoscona, for sure.
cjm1991
10-01-2008, 03:11 PM
Neoscona are slightly hairier, IMO. But it is a Neoscona, for sure.

Thanks for the positive ID and reason. :clap:
ScottySalticid
10-01-2008, 03:35 PM
Neoscona are slightly hairier, IMO. But it is a Neoscona, for sure.

Thanks for the info!
Venom
10-01-2008, 03:41 PM
Pfff, all I did was say "yes, because." Crpy and Jeff_h gave you the ID.

But, if you compare Areaneus with Neoscona, I think you'll notice that N. sp. have rougher, hairier/ hoary appearance, whereas Araneus have more like a few bristles/ sensory spines on them. Just my observation, but that's how I distinguish.
cjm1991
10-01-2008, 04:08 PM
Thats what I was talking about, noone had explained the difference yet until your post..