Genus Phormictopus

[MrDeranged]

Phormictopus atrichromatus

http://www.arachnopics.com/data/2/1654DSCN1715.JPG

Phormictopus atrichromatus

http://www.arachnopics.com/data/2/1654DSCN1716.JPG

Phormictopus nesiotes

http://www.arachnopics.com/data/2/1654DSCN1712.JPG

Scott

[PapaSmurf]

you've got too many T's:D and alot of great looking ones at that!

Josh

[Tangled WWWeb]

P. cancerides...

[Andrew vV]

Plain ol' cancerides

[Andrew vV]

and another

[hooale]

I got this female as P.nesiotes.

Nice species, feeds well and doesn't flick to many hairs.

[The Juice]

This is my 5.5" female P. Cancerides that I have raised since it was 3/4". She is one of the best looking T's In my collection and she only cost me $6. I just got a 2"er last week that I will post somepicks later.

[Bean]

0.0.1 Phormictopus cancerides
http://img45.exs.cx/img45/2740/Phca-close-post.jpg

[moricollins]

here's my P. cancerides mature female.

http://www.arachnopics.com/data/2/1450Pcancerides.jpg

[Steve]

Hi,

Phormictopus sp.

Regards

[hooale]

Steffen: Is that yours?

[andy83]

P. cancerides

http://portfolio.iu.edu/adenning/Haitian1.jpg

[metallica]

Alex, Steffen, you are posting in the wrong thread! this is not the Ephobopus thread! :)

[Steve]

HI,

this is not my spider but from Kuba. And also a other species from Kuba.

@ eddy

i know other species than Ephebopus. Or i can only post at ephebopus Threads @ admin ;)))))

Regards,
Steffen

[Scott C.]

P. cancerides sling
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/ftwaaou/Tarantulas/Ts10064.jpg

[GoTerps]

Freshly molted sub-adult female Phormictopus cancerides.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/GoTerps/9c4ca6fe.jpg

[pategirl]

My female P. cancerides:

[BakuBak]

Phormictopus platus - i think im first :]

aftermolt
http://www.picsplace.to/5/0732/7_057.jpg

http://www.picsplace.to/5/0732/7_060.jpg
befor:]
http://www.picsplace.to/5/0732/6_011.jpg

[dotdman]

Jeuvie P. cancerides... has since molted, but these are the most recent pics I have of it (my camera has since disappeared). It was roughly 1.75 inches at the time of the pictures being taken and was doing what all P. cancerides love to do... eat...

Kindest kindest,

Kevin P.

[GoTerps]

Penultimate male Phormictopus cancerides.

Freshly molted and looking sweet!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/GoTerps/481c7911.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/GoTerps/7e7f94aa.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/GoTerps/83945393.jpg

[Vys]

It would be nice to see some more adult males of P. cancerides, what with the (on the boards) recently presented various versions.

Anywhoo:
Phormictopus atrichomatus
(trying to get the camera to focus , and in the right places, with this little sling running round and around in its little container with very white walls left Vys somewhat vexed) :
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload3/Atrich2.jpg

This is a picture of it that my brother took. (It was posted in its own thread here, but didn't get much attention):
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/Atricho2.jpg

[Vogelspinnen]

http://www.geocities.com/vogel_spinnen/PcanceridesMale3PenultimateJuly122005GeocitiesSCAN .jpg


Can't wait to see what he looks like when he matures.
http://www.geocities.com/vogel_spinnen/PcanceridesMale3PenultimateBodyCloseupGeocitiesSCA N.JPG

Thanks for looking, Gabe - Vogelspinnen

[dotdman]

Phormictopus cancerides - sub-adult male - approx. 7"

Kindest kindest,

Kevin P.

[eman]

Plain ol' cancerides

Man, that "cancerides" gives most pamphos I've seen a good run for their money! Any available for sale? Do you know of anyone that still has some of that same batch/egg sac?

Eman

[Cheetah]

[B]My P.antillensis juvenile [/ {D {D B]

[xWARxPATHx]

P. cancerides

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/xwarxpathx/Hateuamolt2.jpg

[Crimsonpanther]

I Recently Bought a 5 1/2" P. cancerides and WOW what a attitude !!! Trying to put her into her new Tank .....WHAM ;P She lunges at me fangs flashing and all ! Great T's I recommend them to any one !!! Great Pics Guys !!! I'll Try to post some of my beauty later !!! :clap: :clap:

[gustavowright]

Hey great spiders guys...never seen some of them!congrats.

[Greg Wolfe]

This one shed a few days ago and is out and about. I like the gold... :}

[Hedorah99]

Another nice one and on my new "must have list". Does anyone know where slings of that species are available?

[Michael Jacobi]

An underappreciated species (and genus for that matter)...

Here are a couple of more photos:

subadult female

http://www.spidershoppe.com/photos/P_platus_3_MJ.jpg

http://www.spidershoppe.com/photos/P_platus_4_MJ.jpg

Cheers,

Michael

[gustavowright]

:drool: Hey, Michael that´s awesome specie, what size does it gets?Nasty like the others of the Genus?

[Michael Jacobi]

:drool: Hey, Michael that´s awesome specie, what size does it gets?Nasty like the others of the Genus?

Only humans are nasty; tarantulas and other animals are defensive in order to protect themselves ;)

In my experience, this species is less defensive than the more commonly kept P. cancerides. As for maximum size, I believe it reaches 4-5 inches - smaller than P. cancerides.

Cheers, Michael

[gustavowright]

Yep!! I gotta admit that you´re 100% right about the human part, indeed..

[Greg Wolfe]

Yeah, I noticed that too. This phormictopus is more laid back than the cancerides or atrichromatus I've had in the recent past.

[brigebane]

Very nice photos :drool: thanks for sharing guys, I've always loved Phormictopus sp.

[adder]

adult female phormictopus cancerides cancerides

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/383/imgp47383er.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1439/imgp47410lo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Regards

[Michael Jacobi]

View my post here (http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?p=569531)

[Lasiodora]

I really love this genus.

[Lasiodora]

second set.

[Pandora]

Hi there!
I have a few pics of mine. They so impressing beautiful!
Females P.sp.Purple, auratus and antillensis.

http://www.pandora.rdh.ru/foto/Ph.sp.Purple-f2.jpg

http://www.pandora.rdh.ru/foto/P.auratus-f4.jpg

http://www.pandora.rdh.ru/foto/P.antillensis-7L-f3.jpg

New photo P.sp.Purple coming soon! :)

[Scolopendra55]

Wow, holding a phormictopus?!?! That takes some nerves!

[Pandora]

Aha, these photos tooks some nerves! :) But I handle all my Ts therefore this wasn't much difficult. The difficulty is to hold them on one place during photo-shooting! :)
And else pics.

http://www.pandora.rdh.ru/foto/Ph.sp.Purple-f5.jpg

http://www.pandora.rdh.ru/foto/Ph.sp.Purple-f6.jpg

http://www.pandora.rdh.ru/foto/P.auratus-f2.jpg

[eman]

Spectacular! :clap: Talk about an underrated genus!

Cheers!

Eman

[Crotalus]

Pandora,

Your spiderpictures would look much better with a natural background/substrate. Your hands, arms and that plastic carpet doesnt do it for me.

[Pandora]

Crotalus,
Sorry, but the suitable background was not found. Additionally, there are much photos with spiders on natural substrate, I wanted non-standard way.

[Scorpendra]

here's my little cancerides:

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL800/3533103/7266948/135353369.jpg
http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL800/3533103/7266948/135353362.jpg

[Philth]

here's my little cancerides:
....and here's her big mother. Nice spider you got there;)

[P. Novak]

hey philth how big is she?

[Bearskin10]

Here is one of my females,
Last year:

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/47194DSCN0188-med.jpg

Couple nights ago:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Bearskin10/DSCN0002.jpg

Greg

[Bearskin10]

And one of her little ones from last years batch...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Bearskin10/DSCN0005.jpg

Greg

[P. Novak]

how big is the female and male you mated? and is this species hard to breed because im planning on breeding them once my males mature and my female matures(around what size do they mature, or are they breedable?), I have a female around 5" and another one around 4"

[Bearskin10]

It's a new night he made another sperm web last night so in with my smaller female just a few minutes ago, she was no where near as compliant as my larger female, but being a good size male he was able to over power her and get the job done...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Bearskin10/DSCN0012.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Bearskin10/DSCN0014.jpg

@demonhunter, first female is good 7" as is the male second female is right around 6"...

Greg

[P. Novak]

wow that is pretty darn big!! very nice though!!!! so how are these with breeding? easy hard? got any advice?

Both females look veryyy nice!!!!

[Bearskin10]

Breeding this species seems pretty easy to me, she did eat the male last year but was much nicer to this male and did not even try and thump him and her being a big stocky girl I think she could have pretty easily, She dug around like mad for a couple months (and she never digs) last year while gravid just searching for the right spot and finally a night or two after I flooded her enclosure she made a hugh sac, we will have to see where this years mating takes us... Greg

[P. Novak]

oh wow, i hope WHEN i breed it goes well.. and shes doesnt attempt to eat him, ill feed her good before any mating attempts. Anyways good luck on this times sack! BTW how many slings were made from last years eggsacs?

[ponczos]

P. platus/auratus:

http://www.nh.kr.com.pl/galeria/pt/ph_pl/ph_pl_03.jpg

http://www.nh.kr.com.pl/galeria/pt/ph_pl/ph_pl_01.jpg

http://www.nh.kr.com.pl/galeria/pt/ph_pl/ph_pl_02.jpg

[brachy]

Hi

My nice P. cubensis. She is so agressive. She missing for 3 weeks:D
http://brachy-kepei.uw.hu/Phormictopus/fel_1144967609.jpg
http://brachy-kepei.uw.hu/Phormictopus/fel_1144967636.jpg
http://brachy-kepei.uw.hu/Phormictopus/fel_1144967657.jpg

[duente]

what a beautiful species!not to mention easy to find and cheap!Pandora,she looks like a sweetheart,is she agressive?do you regularly handle her?

[Pandora]

duente,
She is not very aggressive, but very bitey :). I handle her regularly, she is enough tamed already and she doesn't afraid of me.

[bionicman]

Phormictopus cancerides cancerides yoyng female
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3189/pcancer6yj.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8320/pcancer24jm.jpg

[BEN-V]

Amazing ! Looks like the Phormictopus cancerdies centumfocensis.

[becca81]

(purchased as) 0.1.0 Phormictopus platus ~3"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/beccamillott/Phormictopus%20platus/P1070152Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/beccamillott/Phormictopus%20platus/P1070150Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/beccamillott/Phormictopus%20platus/P1070148Small.jpg

[† [sandi] †]

that's my male P. cancerides
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/2651882/iFfTMOfObq0BP0_M.v.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/2651882/kQ5U86Sn9x75jnFM.v.jpg

[bistrobob85]

Wow, that male is BLUE!!!! Hm, just a question, guys... Are Phormictopus more burrowing or ground species?

phil.

[duente]

my new little sling :D

[duente]

could the above sling be one year old?there was a sticker on the little box it was in which said "Dom.Repub. 05/2005" any opinions?:confused: my dealer brought it from Germany as he usually does with all his T's

[Bearskin10]

Wow, that male is BLUE!!!! Hm, just a question, guys... Are Phormictopus more burrowing or ground species?

phil.
More of a ground species they are what you would call an obligated burrower in that they will use holes that are already there, in the years that I have kept them the only digging I have seen is from slings and an expecting mother... Greg

[andy83]

Here are a couple of pics of my ultimate male P. cancerides. He is a real looker and does have a lady:)

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/andy83_photos/63006045.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/andy83_photos/63006063.jpg

[BooYaKa]

Phormictopus cancerides juvenile female after molt :)
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9430/cancerides006rr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Phormictopus platus/auratus subadult male after molt
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2893/zwierz281ta004sc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7435/zwierz281ta005na8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Phormictopus platus/auratus subadult female :)
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4641/zwierz281ta040hq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1117/zwierz281ta041ps0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I love this genus :D

[duente]

molted last week :D dunno why it was so docile today,the rest of the time the only thing this thing doesn't bite is the air..(probably coz it can't hehe) anyway,i didnt miss the chance for a "hug" :D

[BakuBak]

do You think that there is such sp as P.antillensis ?? there is no hint about that sp in Platnic's catalog .... ??

[EricFavez]

cancerides grooming...http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/EricFavez/Picture121.jpghttp://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/EricFavez/Picture124.jpghttp://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/EricFavez/Picture125.jpg

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Hello!

I wonder do You really believe that absolutely MOST of Your pics marked as P. canceridea are really so???
Funny thread indeed...

[Scorpendra]

here's my female cancerides:

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=2708
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=2709
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=2818

Rob :cool:

[JohnxII]

P. sp. "Blue", unsexed juvenile
http://johnx.smugmug.com/photos/135923494-M.jpg

[ShadowBlade]

P. atrichromatus
61526

-Sean

[Boo]

This little one already has a nasty attitude :cool:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/MeanieBoo/Eek-A-BugP.jpg

[ShadowBlade]

Freshly molted

Phormictopus atrichromatus
63323


-Sean

[Scorpendra]

recently molted, female P. cancerides.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL800/3533103/10451127/262945596.jpg

[JohnxII]

recently molted, female P. cancerides.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL800/3533103/10451127/262945596.jpg

Is it just the pic or is she really purple? How come everyone else got purple P. cans... :(

[Scorpendra]

yeah, that's how she looks in person (tarantula). but when she goes into premolt, her colors dull severely.

[Sheazy]

Here are my two little P. cancerides. Both are crazy, and fast...crazyfast!!


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/561/pcancerides03gd8.jpg


http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7565/pcancerides01cb0.jpg

[christin]

Sheazy, what are you planning on for thier enclosure when they get bigger? Or if anyone else has advice, it would be much appreciated. I have a little P. cancerides, I know thier terrestrial...but thier big and don't seem as heavy bodied as some of the other terrestrials. I have to buy a new enclosure soon, and I'm looking for ideas. I've had a great deal of difficulty on finding care sheets on these guys.

[fartkowski]

Phormictopus cancerides

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0006.jpg

[fartkowski]

P. cancerides

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/pcan.jpg

[fartkowski]

Phormictopus cancerides

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0030.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0028-2.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0029-1.jpg

[_bob_]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/_bob_/ouchy38544.jpg
Phormictopus cancerides adult female

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/_bob_/ouchy38542.jpg
Phormictopus cancerides sub-adult male

[RottweilExpress]

Hello!

I wonder do You really believe that absolutely MOST of Your pics marked as P. canceridea are really so???
Funny thread indeed...


So elaborate your opinion, please.

[Fince]

http://www.netboard.hu/images/smiles//icon50.gif

Just few older pics.

juv.Phormictopus cancerides

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/finceb/cancslingac.jpg

0.1. Phormictopus cancerides

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/finceb/pcancerad.jpg

[spyderlady]

This is my p. cancerides, Athena. I may change the name if I find out it's a male.

[matthias]

Phormictopus cancerides

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0030.jpg


Are you sure that is a cancerides? could it be another Phormictopus?

[fartkowski]

I bought it as a P cancerides.
It is going to molt very soon, probably any day now. I have some doubts as well, but I will see what comes out of the molt:) It's still just a little guy, about 2 1/2".

[spyderlady]

I bought her back in 2005 at 5 inches and she was sold to me as P. Cancerides by a lady in Carrollton, TX.

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Hi!

RottweilExpress: So elaborate your opinion, please.

Here's nothing to ellaborate indeed.
This is typical not P. cancerides at all...
as well as some others in this thread.

http://www.netboard.hu/images/smiles//icon50.gif
Just few older pics.
0.1. Phormictopus cancerides
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/finceb/pcancerad.jpg

[Fince]

Hi!



Here's nothing to ellaborate indeed.
This is typical not P. cancerides at all...
as well as some others in this thread.

Hi Mikhail,

Please let me know your opinion. Which Phormictupus sp. what you can see on the picture? Thanks for any information...

[spyderlady]

This spider was sold to me back in 2005 as phormictopus cancerides. Somebody else on this thread said this doesn't look like a cancerides. So could someone tell me whether I have a p. cancerides or another species?

[Scorpendra]

it might jut be premolt, but it seems as if my cancerides' pink-ish highlights are starting to fade.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL800/3533103/10451127/317965728.jpg

[Anastasia]

Oh boy here I go :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Anastassia/pets/IMG_1288.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Anastassia/pets/IMG_1269.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Anastassia/pets/DSC_0031-1.jpg

[Scorpendra]

whoops, broke the link to my last image:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL800/3533103/7266948/318244918.jpg

-Rob

[SNAFU]

Little 4" female P. Cancerides right after I unpacked her. Sold as a cancerides anyway! Hopefully after a couple of molts, she'll get a little more "bling" and lose that plain brown overcoat.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/SNAFUinTX/diablo5-082.jpg

[pato_chacoana]

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/pato_chacoana/DSC_0861.jpg

pato-

[Martin H.]

Phormictopus cochleasvorax


http://www.spiderpix.com/allerlei/DSC09437-k-mN.JPG

[fartkowski]

P. cancerides

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0289.jpg

[fartkowski]

P. cancerides

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0295.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/_DSC0296.jpg

[Sooner]

This is a very underrated genus. This is Alucard, my P. cancerides. I haven't been able to get intact molts from this tarantula so I don't know if it's a she or a he. I'm also terrible at sexing from underneath.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3609407745_1ce361fb39_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3384/3610219256_5750fd61d7_b.jpg

[strongboy4]

These are my P. cancerides mating. Look at their wonderful colour and just enjoy....

[RottweilExpress]

To bad Bagaturov never returned with anything useful to say.

Fartkowski, your T does not look like Cancerides. It just doesn't.

[fartkowski]

It defenetly has the attitude of P cancerides:D

[Cyprine]

These pictures are absolutely beautiful.

[moose35]

It defenetly has the attitude of P cancerides:D


hey chris when i see those pics of that spider i can't help but to think Phormictopus platus.
i'm probally wrong.
but its just what i see.

its beautiful by the way



moose

[GoTerps]

To bad Bagaturov never returned with anything useful to say.

Fartkowski, your T does not look like Cancerides. It just doesn't.

The spiders strongboy4 just posted pictures of are the in the same boat... not P. cancerides for me... but one of the spiders frequently sold incorrectly as such (often WC) for many, many years... the "purple" one. This spider is also sold incorrectly as P. atrichomatus sometimes.

Based on the Rudloff's revision, the "purple" spider may be undescribed. It's pictured many times in this thread.

It's not terribly surprising that THIS SPIDER (http://www.birdspiders.com/gallery/p.php/852) gets collected and exported along with WC P. cancerides. I've seen these 2 spiders showing up as WC's and sold as the same thing ever since I've been in the hobby.

Eric

[GoTerps]

hey chris when i see those pics of that spider i can't help but to think Phormictopus platus.
i'm probally wrong.


P. platus is another name that has no buisness being used in the hobby IMO.

As of right now, no living material of P. platus has ever been examined. The holotype and paratype are both subadult males. The female of whatever these specimens are is unknown. Even the original collection locale of the male types is questionable.

Rudloff (in the revision of this genus) does mention that this species is probably very close to P. auratus, based on the immature males in alcohol only.

The spider I see most commonly sold here in the U.S. as "P. platus" are almost always P. auratus.

Eric

[moose35]

P. platus is another name that has no buisness being used in the hobby IMO.

As of right now, no living material of P. platus has ever been examined. The holotype and paratype are both subadult males. The female of whatever these specimens are is unknown. Even the original collection locale of the male types is questionable.

Rudloff does mention that this species is probably very close to P. auratus, based on the immature males in alcohol only.

The spider I see most commonly sold here in the U.S. as "P. platus" are almost always P. auratus.

Eric


see i knew i was wrong.
*damn people putting random crap in jars of alcohol and calling them whatever*:D

but do you think it looks like the us hobby "p. platus" (p. auratus) ?
or another Phormictopus sp?

thanks

moose

[maxident213]

Just wanted to say thank you Eric for posting your knowledge of the genus here for us. Phormictopus is my favourite genus and I have animals sold to me under several different names, but the more I look into the taxonomy of the genus, the less certain I am that they are what they are supposed to be. Information like you've provided here is always a valuable find to me. :worship:

I would love to try breeding the various Phormictopus species in the future but it seems like an uncertain venture with all the taxonomical confusion. Thank you again. :clap:

[fartkowski]

If not P cancerides, any ideas on what it could be?

[GoTerps]

If not P cancerides, any ideas on what it could be?

but do you think it looks like the us hobby "p. platus" (p. auratus) ?
moose

It very well could be P. auratus, yes. Have to run now, but will comment more later.
I'm not terribly familiar with how P. auratus looks during it's younger stages though.

Eric

[fartkowski]

Cool
Thanks Eric.
I bought it as a sling. It's now about 3-3 1/2"

[Martin H.]

Hi,

a Phormictopus cochleasvorax after it's meal:

http://www.spiderpix.com/allerlei/Phormictopus%20cochleasvorax%20DSC08877-k-mN.JPG (http://www.spiderpix.com)


all the best,
Martin

[RottweilExpress]

GoTerps, the pic you posted might be what is at rare occations sold as P. cancerides cancerides here in Europe, or even P. Cancerides "blue". So I guess it's just not properly identified or described even, as you say. I darn myself for not buying some when I had the chance.

On another note, I recently mated my cancerides male and female. The male was a beautiful copper color when he was a juvie, and then turned out like this.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa16/onlywork/PcanceridesMM.jpg

The fem looks alot like Strongboys, with the pinkish carapace. Almost like a huge and hungry Rosea ;) But then again, in a different light, Sooners pic might be the more identical. The lighting in the pics are very deciving.

She's got a sack now, and in 55 days we'll get to see the result.

[GoTerps]

The fem looks alot like Strongboys, with the pinkish carapace. Almost like a huge and hungry Rosea ;) But then again, in a different light, Sooners pic might be the more identical. The lighting in the pics are very deciving.


I think the lighting in the pictures might be deceiving you. IMHO, the female and male in strongboys post go together (both are the "purple" species)... but I would not mate that female with your male. The appearance of your male is consistent with P. cancerides... as is the spider in Sooner's picture. Both the males and females of these 2 species are not difficult to tell apart, and it's quite surprising they've been sold as the same thing for so many years here. This is not the first time I've kinda ranted about it, but maybe it will do some good :)

They have been bred and sold as P. atrichomatus here as well. One of the matings which produced spiderlings sold as such can be seen in this very thread a few pages back.

P. atrichomatus and P. cancerides are both dominant, large species from Hispaniola. Apparently, P. cancerides is found over a large range on the south central/west portions of the island, while P. atrichomatus is widespread on the northern and eastern parts of the island.

P. atrichomatus is not a species devoid of taxonomic confusion. It was described based on a exuvium... the living holotype was supposed to be deposited later... nothing happened and both the specimen and the exuvium were "lost". The paratype was an incorrectly identified P. cancerides. Rudloff, with apparent permission from Schmidt, set up a Neotype, based on specimens from the ZMB. But I'm getting off topic... however, I do not feel this "purple" species is P. atrichomatus, but this is based on images alone, and as we all know that is often misleading.

There is some good work being continued on this group I believe, and on spiders from Cuba/Hispaniola... so there very well may be more known about this "puple" species than has been published about.

GoTerps, the pic you posted might be what is at rare occations sold as P. cancerides cancerides here in Europe, or even P. Cancerides "blue". So I guess it's just not properly identified or described even, as you say.

That is true, I have seen them labeled as P. cancerides cancerides in Europe. I've also seen them sold as Phormictopus sp. "purple" in Europe. I've never seen them sold under those names in the U.S. (except some imported slings have recently been sold as sp. "purple")

Eric

[hamfoto]

Hi,

a Phormictopus cochleasvorax after it's meal:

http://www.spiderpix.com/allerlei/Phormictopus%20cochleasvorax%20DSC08877-k-mN.JPG (http://www.spiderpix.com)


all the best,
Martin

Wow! Very cool, Martin! How does it get the snail out? I've watched Dipsas sp. snakes eat snails...but they're able to get their jaws into the shell opening and work the snail out...how in the hell does a tarantula do it???:?

Chris

[Martin H.]

Chris,



Wow! Very cool, Martin! How does it get the snail out? they suck them out. Here are some photos by Matthias Köhler: >>click here<< (http://www.vogelspinne-ev.de/Galerie/albums/userpics/07160013.jpg), >>click here<< (http://www.vogelspinne-ev.de/Galerie/albums/userpics/07160020.jpg)

all the best,
Martin

[hamfoto]

That is ABSOLUTELY the cooooooolest thing I've ever seen a T do...:eek:

Who knew a T would evolve that behavior!

Thanks Martin!

Chris

[strongboy4]

Hy @ all:
oh, I love those pic-determinators ;P
@ Eric:
The animals of the pictures were determinated by Rudloff himself :worship: as P. cancerides and nothing else.
I know that they are sold as P. sp. purple/blue/violet/centumfocensis/cautus/... whatever. Good sellers job.... ggg
I´ve got a breeding group 4.7 of them and hope to get an eggsack.

best regards

Didi

Ps: And why on this dammed forum I have to delete my other pictures if I wanna post a new pic? :evil:

[GoTerps]

The animals of the pictures were determinated by Rudloff himself :worship:
as P. cancerides and nothing else.

If you say so.

Is is possible for 2 very different looking spiders to be the same species... well of course it is. Have I personally compared the normal P. cancerides to these purple spiders? No, I haven't and it's not high on my list of things to do. If the 2 different spiders being called P. cancerides in this thread really are the same species, then I'll shut up, but I simply do not buy it.

And why on this dammed forum I have to delete my other pictures if I wanna post a new pic? :evil:

Probably b/c you have reached the limit of your allotted attachment space. Try using photobucket or a service of that type... or another damned forum.

Good luck with your matings.

Eric

[strongboy4]

Hey Eric!
Admittedly I was wondering, too, that they are cancerides, but J.P. Rudloff told me after investigation that they are.
I think just a colour variant.
And: Yes, I ´ve reached the limit. But I don´t think these limits are good for posting pics, because so I have to keep my best pics from you. :8o
And this forum is dammed good.... ;)
take care

Didi

[strongboy4]

better quality of the pic

[RottweilExpress]

I've got a sack on the way now. Shall prove interesting.

[johnson]

sold as phormictopus cancerides.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3665417686_f4652e2cd0.jpg
is that really whats it was sold as?
response awaited.

[strongboy4]

Hi!

Here´s a new pic of my P. cancerides (purple-blue variant):

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=20.5.09179mfpy.jpg

@ Johnson: Determination on pics isn´t possible. Better you send the skin of your spider to a scientist who´s able to determinate it. Wish you good luck!

Didi

[strongboy4]

2nd pic:

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=20.5.09211gs36.jpg

take care!
Didi

[fartkowski]

Phormictopus sp

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/fartkowski/piders/148-1.jpg

[johnson]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3918566347_7ac2a181ab.jpg

[Scorpendra]

0.1 P. cancerides

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs218.snc1/8533_1243364688634_1364855034_686048_2299823_n.jpg
something tells me she's going to molt soon. not willing to give up her title of "largest T in my collection", i suppose {D

Rob Kuhn