My Acanthoscurria collection(alot of pics)

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This is my Acanthoscurria collection.

0.0.3 Acanthoscurria altmanni
0.1 Acanthoscurria brocklehursti
0.1 Acanthoscurria cordubensis
0.0.1 Acanthoscurria ferina
0.1 Acanthoscurria fracta
0.1 Acanthoscurria geniculata
0.1 Acanthoscurria insubtilis
0.1 Acanthoscurria sp. (Brazil)

First out:

A altmanni, this species is very similiar to Nhandu carpoensis. I've got three large juveniles.

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Next up is A brocklehursti, adult angry female

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A cordubensis, adult female

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A ferina, juvenile/subadult kicking hair

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A fracta, adult female

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A geniculata, adult female monster

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A insubtilis, subadult/adult female

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And last...

A sp. from Brazil. Adult female.

[genious_gr]

Sooo, this is how my insubtilis slings will look like when they grow. Cool. Thanks a lot, great pics, and a wise choice of T's.

[Melmoth]

Great collection. A.geniculata is one of my top three t's along with B.smithii and L.parahybana. Your setups are very natural looking and a real credit to you.

[aftershock]

Thank you very much!

[priZZ]

Hey!

You don't have A. gomesiana??? :D

[Joe1968]

wow you have a nice collection, some nice rare ones too... i like your tank setup, nice ferns/plants, kinda inspiring, i was thinking of puting some plants in one of my tanks after looking at your pics, got me inspired. :)
thanks for sharing.

[aftershock]

Prizz>>>No I haven't...:( Been looking for one for a long time though. I'll see if I find one in Hamm.

[morda]

Great!
Now I see some differences between geniculata and brocklehursti :D

[Vys]

Very nice. They all have that eye-hair? :)

[manville]

very nice tarantula collection!

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And now..hopefully I will get A sternalis, gomesiana and natalensis in a few weeks if everything works out fine.

[Phalagorn]

Nice collection of Acantos :) very nice pictures! How many subspecies are there in Acanthoscurria?

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There are alot..so I need a "few" more...

From Platniks site:

Gen. Acanthoscurria Ausserer, 1871

N.B.: considered a senior synonym of Trasyphoberus Simon, 1903 by Raven, 1985a: 159.

Transferred to other genera:
A. cristata Mello-Leitão, 1923 -- see Lasiodora.
A. dubia Chamberlin, 1917 -- see Phormictopus.

In synonymy:
A. abnormis Ibarra, 1954 = A. insubtilis Simon, 1892 (Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 412).
A. gigantea Tullgren, 1905 = A. sternalis Pocock, 1903 (Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 393).
A. lycosoides (Tullgren, 1905, T from Cyrtopholis) = A. ferina Simon, 1892 (Gerschman & Schiapelli, 1965a: 375).
A. parvitarsis (Simon, 1903) = A. ferina Simon, 1892 (Lucas, 1983a: 155).
A. pheopygus (Mello-Leitão, 1923, T from Phormictopus) = A. gomesiana Mello-Leitão, 1923 (Lucas, 1983c: 350).
A. substernalis Strand, 1907 = A. sternalis Pocock, 1903 (Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 393).

mf acuminata Schmidt & Tesmoingt, 2000....................Bolivia, Brazil
A. a. Schmidt & Tesmoingt, 2000: 2, f. 1-2 (Df).
A. a. Schmidt, 2000b: 1, f. 1-2 (Dm).

mf altmanni Schmidt, 2003....................Brazil
A. a. Schmidt, 2003a: 7, f. 1-3, 8 (Df).
A. a. Schmidt, 2003c: 3, f. 1-5 (Dm).

f antillensis Pocock, 1903....................Lesser Antilles
A. a. Pocock, 1903b: 86 (Df).

mf atrox Vellard, 1924....................Brazil
A. a. Vellard, 1924a: 143, pl. 8, f. 35 (Dmf).
A. a. Bücherl, 1957: 396, f. 58-58b (m).
A. a. Schmidt, 1986: 54, f. 71-73 (m).
A. a. Schmidt, 1993d: 76, f. 147-149 (m).
A. a. Schmidt, 1997g, 1998h: 17, f. 90-91, 94 (m).
A. a. Bertani, 2000: 30, f. 25-26 (m).
A. a. Peters, 2000a: 14, f. 18-19 (m).

m aurita Piza, 1939....................Brazil
A. a. Piza, 1939a: 5, f. 2-3 (Dm).

mf brocklehursti F. O. P.-Cambridge, 1896....................Brazil
A. b. F. O. P.-Cambridge, 1896: 739, pl. 24, f. 18 (Df).
A. b. Bücherl, 1957: 397, f. 60-60a (m).
A. b. Schmidt, 1986: 54, f. 74-75 (m).
A. b. Schmidt, 1993d: 76, f. 150-151 (m).
A. b. Schmidt, 1997g, 1998h: 17, f. 95 (m).

mf chacoana Brèthes, 1909....................Bolivia, Paraguay, Argentina
A. c. Brèthes, 1909a: 45 (Df).
A. c. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 402, pl. I, f. 14-19 (f, Dm).

m chiracantha Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. c. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 288, f. 81-82, 89, 181 (Dm).
A. chiracanthia Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 409, pl. II, f. 19-23 (m).

f convexa (C. L. Koch, 1842)....................Brazil
Mygale c. C. L. Koch, 1842: 94, f. 750 (Df).
Crypsidromus c. Ausserer, 1871a: 195.
Callyntropus c. Pocock, 1901c: 544.
A. c. Simon, 1903a: 943.

mf cordubensis Thorell, 1894....................Argentina
A. c. Thorell, 1894a: 28 (Dm).
A. c. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 401, pl. I, f. 8-13 (m, Df).
A. c. Schmidt, 1999f: 4, f. 26-27 (m).

m cunhae Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. c. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 282, f. 55-59, 168 (Dm).
A. cunhai Bonnet, 1955: 136.

m cursor Chamberlin, 1917....................Brazil
A. c. Chamberlin, 1917: 65, pl. 4, f. 10 (Dm).
A. c. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 408, pl. II, f. 15-18 (m).
A. c. Smith, 1986b: 146, f. 7h (m).
A. c. Smith, 1987d: 146, f. 7h (m).
A. c. Peters, 2000b: 140, f. 417 (m).

mf ferina Simon, 1892....................Peru, Bolivia, Brazil
A. f. Simon, 1892d: 282 (Dm).
Trasyphoberus parvitarsis Simon, 1903a: 942, f. 1087 (Df).
Cyrtopholis lycosoides Tullgren, 1905: 9 (Df).
Trasyphoberus parvitarsis Bücherl, 1957: 399, f. 72-72a (m).
A. f. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 410, pl. II, f. 9-14 (m, Df).
A. f. Gerschman & Schiapelli, 1965a: 375, f. 1-2 (f, S).
Trasyphoberus f. Lucas, 1983a: 155 (S).
Trasyphoberus parvitarsis Schmidt, 1986: 56, f. 80-82 (m).
A. f. Schmidt, 1993d: 76, f. 152-154 (m).
A. f. Schmidt, 1997g, 1998h: 17, f. 92, 96-97 (m).
A. f. Peters, 2000a: 15, f. 23-24 (m).

mf fracta Chamberlin, 1917....................Brazil
A. f. Chamberlin, 1917: 66, pl. 5, f. 1 (Dm).
A. f. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1945: 185, pls. XI, XIX (Df).
A. f. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 411, pl. III, f. 15-18 (m).
A. f. Smith, 1986b: 146, f. 10h (m).
A. f. Smith, 1987d: 146, f. 10h (m).

mf geniculata (C. L. Koch, 1841) *....................Brazil
Mygale g. C. L. Koch, 1841a: 43, f. 718 (Dm).
Scurria g. C. L. Koch, 1850: 74.
A. g. Ausserer, 1871a: 206, pl. 1, f. 10 (m).
A. g. F. O. P.-Cambridge, 1896: 737, pl. 34, f. 17 (Df).
A. g. Bücherl, 1957: 397, f. 63 (m).
A. g. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1979: 293, f. 15-16 (f).
A. g. Schmidt, 1986: 54, f. 76 (m).
A. g. Schmidt, 1993d: 76, f. 155-156 (mf).
A. g. Pérez-Miles et al., 1996: 41, f. 3-4, 6 (m).
A. g. Schmidt, 1997g, 1998h: 17, f. 93, 98 (mf).
A. g. Schmidt, 1998e: 2, f. 1 (f).
A. g. Bertani, 2001: 325, f. 45-47 (mf).

mf gomesiana Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. g. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 306, f. 51-55, 167 (Dm).
Phormictopus pheopygus Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 273, f. 150-152 (Df).
A. g. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 411, pl. III, f. 4-9 (m, Df).
A. g. Lucas, 1983c: 350 (S).

m guaxupe Piza, 1972....................Brazil
A. g. Piza, 1972b: 161, 1 fig. (Dm).

m insubtilis Simon, 1892....................Bolivia
A. i. Simon, 1892d: 282 (Dm).
A. abnormis Ibarra, 1954: 19, f. 1-5 (Dm).
A. i. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 412, pl. II, f. 1-8 (m, S).
A. i. Bertani, 2000: 30, f. 27-28 (m).

mf juruenicola Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. j. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 294 (Df).
A. j. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 413, pl. III, f. 3 (f).
A. j. Lucas et al., 1981b: 151, f. 1-5 (Dm).
A. j. Bertani, 2000: 30, f. 29-30 (m).

m maga Simon, 1892....................South America
A. m. Simon, 1892d: 280 (Dm).

f melanotheria Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. m. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 310 (Df).

m minor Ausserer, 1871....................Guyana
A. m. Ausserer, 1871a: 206, pl. 1, f. 11 (Dm).

mf musculosa Simon, 1892....................Bolivia, Brazil
A. m. Simon, 1892d: 281 (Dm).
A. m. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 302, f. 83-85, 180 (m).
A. m. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 413, pl. III, f. 10-14 (m).
A. m. Stewien, 1969: 79, f. 1-7 (Df).
A. m. Peters, 2000a: 17, f. 30 (f).

f natalensis Chamberlin, 1917....................Brazil
A. n. Chamberlin, 1917: 64 (Df).
A. n. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 414, pl. III, f. 1-2 (f).

m parahybana Mello-Leitão, 1926....................Brazil
A. p. Mello-Leitão, 1926a: 321 (Dm).

m paulensis Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. p. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 304, f. 86-88, 178-179 (Dm).
A. p. Smith, 1986b: 148, f. 18h (m).
A. p. Smith, 1987d: 148, f. 18h (m).

m pugnax Vellard, 1924....................Brazil
A. p. Vellard, 1924a: 142, pl. 8, f. 34 (Dm).

f rhodothele Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. r. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 296, f. 122, 140 (Df).

f rondoniae Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. r. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 287 (Df).
A. rondoniensis Bonnet, 1955: 138 (invalid emendation).
A. rondoniensis Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 415, pl. II, f. 24 (f).

mf sternalis Pocock, 1903....................Bolivia, Paraguay, Argentina
A. s. Pocock, 1903b: 86 (Df).
A. gigantea Tullgren, 1905: 11, pl. 1, f. 2 (Df).
A. substernalis Strand, 1907l: 66 (Df).
A. gigantea Mello-Leitão, 1933c: 173 (Dm).
A. s. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 403, pl. I, f. 1-7 (f, Sm).
A. s. Gerschman & Schiapelli, 1965a: 375, f. 4 (f).
A. s. Bertani, 2001: 325, f. 41-44 (mf).
A. s. Schmidt, 2003d: 12, f. 1 (f).

mf suina Pocock, 1903....................Argentina, Uruguay
A. s. Pocock, 1903b: 87 (Df).
A. s. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 407, p. I, f. 20-25 (f, Dm).
A. s. Smith, 1989a: 13, unnumbered f. (f).
A. s. Pérez-Miles et al., 1996: 41, f. 5 (f).
A. s. Schmidt, 1999f: 5, f. 24 (f).

f tarda Pocock, 1903....................Brazil
A. t. Pocock, 1903b: 87 (Df).

m theraphosoides (Doleschall, 1871)....................Brazil
Acanthopalpus t. Doleschall, in Ausserer, 1871a: 208, pl. 1, f. 12-13 (Dm).
A. t. Simon, 1892a: 158.
A. t. Mello-Leitão, 1917a: 75, f. 1-2 (m).

m transamazonica Piza, 1972....................Brazil
A. t. Piza, 1972a: 99, 1 fig. (Dm).

mf urens Vellard, 1924....................Brazil
A. u. Vellard, 1924a: 140, pl. 7, f. 33 (Dmf).

mf violacea Mello-Leitão, 1923....................Brazil
A. v. Mello-Leitão, 1923a: 292, f. 182 (Df).
A. v. Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1964: 415, pl. III, f. 19-21 (f, Dm).

mf xinguensis Timotheo, 1960....................Brazil
A. x. Timotheo, 1960: 2, f. 1-4 (Dmf).

[FryLock]

Aftershock you still need the best one IMHO (post this pic before but what the hell) sub adult Acanthoscurria chacoana about 6" now :D

[SCtarantulas]

Great T collection u got there! Nice set up! And some amazing pic!

Regards,
Steve

[vulpina]

Beautiful T's!! Great pics as always!! I also have one question, I think the spider commonly sold as L. cristata was moved to the Nhandu genus right?? Is it now N. cristata?

Andy

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Vulpina: Thank you very much! And as martin H said, L cristata is now Nhandu chromatus.

Take care!
Martin

[Martin H.]

Hi,


And as martin H said, L cristata is now Nhandu chromatus.I didn't say this and that's also not correct!
Lasiodora cristata sensu Mello-Leitão 1923 is still Lasiodora cristata, BUT the species which has been sold in the pet trade in the last years as "Vitalius cristatus / Lasiodora cristata" has been recently described as Nhandu chromatus!

all the best,
Martin

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Alright, sorry Martin...:)

[avmaviator]

I, on the other hand, have a hard time seeing the differences between the Genic and the brockle. Can someone point out to me what these differences are? I think my genic is a brockle now... hmmm.

Arno

[vulpina]

Martin,
Thank you guys for the info!!!

Andy

[Michael.NEGRINI]

Hello,

nice shots and nice animals :)

but I think your "A. fracta" is not correctly IDed, I think it's a Lasiodorides sp. blue (often sold as E. pulcherrimaklaasi).

[avmaviator]

Hello,

nice shots and nice animals :)

but I think your "A. fracta" is not correctly IDed, I think it's a Lasiodorides sp. blue (often sold as E. pulcherrimaklaasi).

Ou la, les Francais sy mettent, hehe, je rigole. Sud-Ouest heh? Ou ca?

Arnaud

[FryLock]

Yes i think your right but i did not want to say :o pic's here http://www.tow.business.t-online.de/assets/images/spi140.jpg and here http://www.birdspiders.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=photo.detail&imageid=15B01CC0KD0B7KAEC2K14045C260652EA1E
of A.fracta.

[aftershock]

I bought it from one of europes most reputable dealers and I guess he know what he sells...but, I've just sent him an e-mail just in case. I'll keep you updated.

Still, it looks like both species...I've made som real close up photos and I'm still not sure.... :?

[Crotalus]

I bought it from one of europes most reputable dealers and I guess he know what he sells...

Dont count on that.

And I agree, it looks like those spiders that was sold as "peruvian birdeater" and also as E. pulcherimaklaasi.
As far as I remember it could be a Paraphysa sp.

/Lelle

[FryLock]

Very hard to say iv seen a few Paraphysa.sp and there mirror patch is more distinct like some of the Homoeomma.sp but that could be because she is fat :) and its spread wide.

[aftershock]

For some reason it's not possible to send PM's to you Martin... :?

I bought it from Herwig Kahlenberg.

I've been lookin gat alot of pictures and A fracta and E pulcherimaklaasi seems to be very similar and the pictures I've seen are quite different and some look like my "A fracta" and some don't.

The biggest difference among the pictures is the orange line in front of the carapace.

A fracta or not..that's the question...

I've sent Kahelberg an email and i will keep you updated.

[Crotalus]

Very hard to say iv seen a few Paraphysa.sp and there mirror patch is more distinct like some of the Homoeomma.sp but that could be because she is fat :) and its spread wide.

I was talking about the species that was sold here in Sweden as "peruvian birdeater" or "E. pulcherimusklaasi" - which look alot like the A. fracta Aftershock got.

A few differencies of these two genus:

Generic key to Acanthosurria (from "Tarantula ID guide" - Smith):
No stridulating bristles on coxae of palp and leg 1.

Generic key to Paraphysa ((from "Tarantula ID guide" - Smith):
Anterior side of trochanter, coxae and femur of leg 1 is uniformly clothed with long bristles.

/Lelle

[FryLock]

NP Lelle im going on the spider sold as that here in the UK under that name which is has a distinct mirror patch check it out here Unknown Peru (http://tatantulas.1.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=794) humm but how many dealers these days even check out a deady against the keys ;) (tho some used to)

[Ruben Olsen]

Hi

Nice Pictures, some of the spiders looks familiar :-)

but here is some of my Acanthoscurria Species.

Adult female Acanthoscurria Altmanni
http://edderkopper.dk/Acanthoscurria_Altmanni05.JPG

Adult female Acanthoscurria Antillensis
http://edderkopper.dk/acanthoscurria_antillensis200.JPG

Sub adult Acanthoscurria Brocklehursti
http://edderkopper.dk/acanthoscurri_abrocklehursti100.JPG

Adult female Acanthoscurria Juruenicola
http://edderkopper.dk/Acanthoscurria_Juruenicola100.JPG

Adult female Acanthoscurria Musculosa
http://edderkopper.dk/acanthoscurri_amusculosa100.JPG

Juvenile Acanthoscurria Natalensis
http://edderkopper.dk/Acanthoscurria_Natalensis01.JPG

Adult female Acanthoscurria Spec "Bolivia"
http://edderkopper.dk/acanthoscurria_spec_bolivia201.JPG

Sub Adult female Acanthoscurria Spec "Paraguay"
http://edderkopper.dk/Acanthoscurria_spec_paraguey02.JPG

Cheers
Ruben Olsen
Denmark

[Martin H.]

Hi,


A altmanni, this species is very similiar to Nhandu carpoensis. I've got three large juveniles.recently BERTANI & DA SILVA (2004) have synonymized A. altmanni sensu Schmidt 2003 with A. chacoana sensu Brèthes, 1909. See: BERTANI, R. & P. I. DA SILVA JR (2004): Notes on Acanthoscurria chacoana Brèthes, 1909 (Araneae: Theraphosidae) in Brazil, and its synonymy with Acanthoscurria altmanni Schmidt, 2003. Zootaxa (http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/content.html) 648: 1-8.

abstract:
The types of Acanthoscurria chacoana, a species described from Argentina, Bolivia and Paraguay were studied and compared with Brazilian material. Spermathecal and palpal bulb morphology was found to exhibit a high degree of variability, both within and between populations. A. chacoana can be distinguished by male having a short, thickened embolus with a very long, narrow prolateral inferior keel, and female having fused spermathecae that are typically longer than wide, with their terminal receptacles close together. Its geographical distribution is extended into Brazil within and around the ‘Pantanal Matogrossense’ region. The species Acanthoscurria altmanni Schmidt, 2003 is considered a junior synonym of A. chacoana.

all the best,
Martin

[aftershock]

Thank you very much for the information!!

[dbaines]

Hi Aftershock that is one very nice collection of acanthoscurria. :D
Acanthoscurria has to be the best Genus of them all. :cool:

[nowhereman]

Nice pics and a good collection.

[RottweilExpress]

So what happened, A. Fracta or not?

I have a supposed male juvie A fracta here, and I'm searching for a mate for him in the future.