Dead red knees :-( help?

crash769 · Aug 9, 2004

OK this is the second red knee brachypelma smithi that i have lost in the same way both times. they both stopped eating like they were goin to molt for 3-4 weeks. Then they just die. both had this white stuff around the fangs. this was not there when they were alive. after they die they seem to ball it up in there mouth with lots of dirt. I can not see any worms anywhere in the mouth. Lungs are clean same with the but. There is nothing in the water. None of my other T have died in this mannor. Only the two smithies. The first one was about 4in not mature male that died last summer. The second one was a female about 4in died last night. here are some pics

manville · Aug 9, 2004

Looks like a female to me. Well anyways, are they WC?

cichlidsman · Aug 9, 2004

that is strange i have never seen anything like it. do you think taht it was mold or some thing? did you mist the tank often? sad to hear about your loss

Mattyb · Aug 9, 2004

Sorry to hear about your loss...i just lost a Trapdoor....

JohnxII · Aug 9, 2004

Looks like a serious case of nematode infection. You should freeze your loved one's remains before discarding them. And check your source of food. Do you feed them WC insects? Do you breed your own feeders? Do you prefer buying small amounts of crickets from pet stores? I would strongly recommend you to stop feeding your other T's with the same food for the time being.

coReY · Aug 9, 2004

That looks like a disease to me, you should isolate the infected ones and spread out what other T's you might have to prevent it from infecting others..

Atleast thats what I would to... just to be safe

atleast untill someone who knows something about this comes along and tells you if its safe.

cichlidsman · Aug 9, 2004

Mattyb said:
Sorry to hear about your loss...i just lost a Trapdoor....

i died all ready, it was just yesterday you were looking for some advise on it. sorry for you loss. better luck nect time.

ps-do you know what when wrong?

Mattyb · Aug 9, 2004

cichlidsman said:
i died all ready, it was just yesterday you were looking for some advise on it. sorry for you loss. better luck nect time.

ps-do you know what when wrong?

i put a water dish in for him cause i figured he would drink out of it like a T and the dumb thing goes and drownds in it....

cichlidsman · Aug 9, 2004

Mattyb said:
i put a water dish in for him cause i figured he would drink out of it like a T and the dumb thing goes and drownds in it....

now that is bad luck. next tim you should put some small rocks in there so it does'nt drown. again sorry for your loss.

Mattyb · Aug 9, 2004

cichlidsman said:
now that is bad luck. next tim you should put some small rocks in there so it does'nt drown. again sorry for your loss.

I'm going to have to have my local pet store make a special order for me if i want another trapdoor...maybe i'll just stick with Ts...i know how to care for them....

ShaunHolder · Aug 9, 2004

Looks like nematodes to me too. If you don't mind me asking, what substrate where the smithi's in?

Greg Wolfe · Aug 9, 2004

Nematode infection...

Weird... I inspect every deceased T of mine upon its passing and have never seen that before. I suspect it is some kind of infection/parasite.
Sorry for your loss. I would also like to inquire what kind of substrate she was on too.

Randy · Aug 9, 2004

it looks like some kinda mm poisoning to me.. well i dont realli know what happened but.. sorry to hear bout it~

Immortal_sin · Aug 9, 2004

nematodes...
I'd go through and double check your other Ts. Get rid of whatever food source you had for them too. If you can, send them to REISM, look for the sticky at the top of the T forum for information. You can also email Kerry.

crash769 · Aug 9, 2004

I keep all my Ts on dry peat moss. The two pics are of the same female. I feed all my Ts store bought crickets. Both were captice breed. I dont know if its nematodes cuz i cant see any worms. Its only around the fangs. Its like she ate her own poop. Its chalky when dry and it runs when you get it wet. Non of my other Ts have been affeted by it. only the two red knees. the first one with it died over a year ago and i thought it was nematodes. I cleaned all the tanks, got new hides. nothing seemed to go wrong till now.

Earth Tiger · Aug 9, 2004

sorry for your loss. but B. smithi should be captive bred and free of parasites. Did you house them in the same tank and recyle the substrate?

crash769 · Aug 9, 2004

She was not in the same tank that the first one died in. I cleaned all the tanks. I used lots of water with a little bleach on all of the tanks. I bought all new dirt. i dunno what to do. None of my other ts seem to be affected.

Scorpiove · Aug 9, 2004

Mattyb said:
I'm going to have to have my local pet store make a special order for me if i want another trapdoor...maybe i'll just stick with Ts...i know how to care for them....

What did you do with the body? Not to give you false hope but there is a slim chance it could have "woken up".

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