Wolf spider or Trapdoor?

[WhyTeDraGon]

I finally got pics :clap: They are the first 11, til you get to the one with my son and my sister's rottie.

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=5293743&uid=2653322&members=1

So what do you think it is?

Also...what sex do you think it is? If its male...ill let it go. Id hate to keep it from its mate!

Thanks!

~Crystal

PS: The little beardie was wanting to eat him, yes...but no inverts were harmed in the taking of these pics! :shame: {D

[Malkavian]

I'd guess a trapdoor...>I've never seen a wolf spider that color black and so unfurry before

[WhyTeDraGon]

how about THAT vicious? lol. He's pretty darn mean! He flipped over on his back trying to bite my pencil while taking those pics. Neat spider. But if it IS truly a trapdoor, im going to release it, as I have a 3 year old, and could only imagine what would happen if he got ahold of it somehow.

~Crystal

[WayneT]

I am going to say that is not a wolf spider...it looks trapdoor...Hmmm...I'll take it off your hands Crystal.

[WhyTeDraGon]

awww, you should've told me Wayne! I could have sent it with the avic! :?
If you REALLY want it though, perhaps I could send it sometime soon :)

Let me know!

[kyle_de_aussie]

Do you guys get funnel webs over there i know we live in different countries and all but ive seen a lot of funnel webs that look very similar to that spider :?

[Alex S.]

The specimen is definitely not a wolf spider. It is a mygalomorph. Trapdoor spiders (Ctenizidae), funnel-web spiders (Dipluridae), and purse-web spiders (Atypidae) all can be found in Texas. It is nearly impossible to narrow it down to species or even genus from pictures alone. I would say the spider is most likely a ctenizid though.

Alex S.

[Lochala]

The specimen is definitely not a wolf spider. It is a mygalomorph. Trapdoor spiders (Ctenizidae), funnel-web spiders (Dipluridae), and purse-web spiders (Atypidae) all can be found in Texas. It is nearly impossible to narrow it down to species or even genus from pictures alone. I would say the spider is most likely a ctenizid though.
Alex S.
Where are they most likely to be found at? I've never been able to find any before. :confused:

[kyle_de_aussie]

The bites of our funnel webs over here are lethal is it the same for the ones found in texas aswell???
our trapdoor bites are pretty nasty to but not lethal

I live in australia by the way ;) :cool:
peace out

[Alex S.]

Where are they most likely to be found at? I've never been able to find any before. :confused:

I’m not sure exactly what regions, but they are known to be found there. U.S. non-tarantula mygalomorphs are not nearly as large as species from other, more tropical countries. Species from the U.S. usually don’t get much larger than 1” in body length, so they are not as easy to find.

Alex S.

[Alex S.]

The bites of our funnel webs over here are lethal is it the same for the ones found in texas aswell???
our trapdoor bites are pretty nasty to but not lethal

I live in australia by the way ;) :cool:
peace out

Bites of U.S. species are not nearly as dangerous as Australian species, but most likely painful nonetheless.

Alex S.

[WhyTeDraGon]

It looks like its not meant to be afterall, its going downhill again :( Its probably a male, and ready to die. Oh well.
Im not going to try to save it this time, I think its just its time to go.

But anyway...my fiance found it at Southwest Research where he works, he said it was inside a panel, near a vent. Whatever that means. lol. But it was inside a building, not near dirt or a tunnel.
Hope that helps. We've never seen one of these before either.

Thanks for the reply's guys :)

~Crystal

[Wade]

I don't believe the the US funnel webs are even related to the Australian ones, other than both being Myglaomorphs.

Wade

[pandinus]

they arent, they belong to 2 entirely different families.

[Alex S.]

Atrax and Hadronyche are the two genera that contain the dangerously venomous funnel-web mygalomorphs in Australia, while Euagrus is the genus that contains the two species, E. chisoseus and E. comstocki, of funnel-web mygalomorphs in Texas, which are not nearly as venomous.

Alex S.

[kyle_de_aussie]

Funnilly enough some people i know want to keep the sydney funnel web as pets over here in oz. Ive seen a fair few of em just like in the wild and they are really defensive more so than my most agro T.They look really pretty some with a purple tinge on the abdomen but i dont think id have one as a pet
PEACE OUT ;) :cool:

[El Johano]

Funnilly enough some people i know want to keep the sydney funnel web as pets over here in oz. Ive seen a fair few of em just like in the wild and they are really defensive more so than my most agro T.They look really pretty some with a purple tinge on the abdomen but i dont think id have one as a pet
PEACE OUT ;) :cool:

Atrax/Hadronyche sp. are in the top 3 for me, and i know I'm not alone :)
A pity it's not allowed to export them :(