ID help???

[Rabid Flea]

I was laying on the floor browsing through AB when this lil guy runs across my back. I know pix are a lil bad but its the best I cud do right away!

[Rabid Flea]

I just realized the light was really really bad in those pix
i will try again and update.

[NRF]

Steatoda grossa

[Rabid Flea]

cool, i pulled it up on google, thats it! thank you, but i wonder is it venomous? It has the body of a widow, but no red markings, very cool and shy spider

[cacoseraph]

steatoda grossa = false widow

not dangerously venomous to humans

[pandinus]

cool, i pulled it up on google, thats it! thank you, but i wonder is it venomous? It has the body of a widow, but no red markings, very cool and shy spider
many therdiids are similar in apearence to latrodectus, but none have their venom, in this country at least. out here there are thousands and thousands of Steadoa triangulosa.

[NRF]

I was once bit by a tiny S. grossa in Estonia. One leg was mashed when I tried to put it in a film can and it ran away along my finger and I saw how it was trying to bite. I did not feel anything and I don´t think it even made a scratch in my finger. Normally they are not aggressive and just run and hide in some hole if you disturb them in their webs. In some books S. grossa is marked with one skull (and L. mactans with two), whatever that means. Large females (like Steatoda bipunctata) can probably bite through your skin even if their chelicerae are relatively small.