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ink_scorpion
06-08-2005, 12:35 PM
A few months ago I bought this T as a "Suntiger", so back then I was thinking it was a P. irminia. The more I get a chance to look at this T, the more I think it was mis-ID'd in the pet store I bought it at. The first reason why I began to think it wasn't what they said it was once I got it home and housed, is because it didn't build the typical arboreal web between the cork bark and the side of the enclosure. Instead, it built a burrow of sorts by webbing between the substrate and the cork bark, and then packed substrate against the sides of the web. It had formed quite the elaborate home by the time I recently rehoused it, none the less all at the bottom of the enclosure.

I've got the feeling its some sort of Haplopelma species (male H. minax or male H. lividum maybe). Anyone with a fair degree of knowlege please voice your thoughts. I really hope the pictures are clear enough. It's quite quick and will strike a pose at the slightest disturbance, so I didn't wanna get to close (yeah, I'm a chicken). Thanks in advance!

shogun804
06-08-2005, 12:45 PM
their is a chance that it could be some type of haploplema specie

F. J. A.
06-08-2005, 12:50 PM
Well, for sure not a P. irminia...
I won't give any ID, but it's indeed build like a burrowing species (strong carapace etc.), so your guess could be into the right direction.

Lopez
06-08-2005, 04:40 PM
Looks like a very freshly moulted H sp."Vietnam" (are we using vonwirthi yet??)

Or it could be a popcorn spider ;)

morda
06-08-2005, 05:26 PM
I think it's a popcorn!

It's not suntiger for sure!

Some Haplopelma sp .... or something...

ink_scorpion
06-08-2005, 07:05 PM
Looks like a very freshly moulted H sp."Vietnam" (are we using vonwirthi yet??)

Or it could be a popcorn spider ;)

Correct Lopez, very freshly molted! My guess is somewhere between one and 2 weeks. Thanks for the ID! ( :? Popcorn Spider :? )

Lopez
06-09-2005, 02:09 AM
Correct Lopez, very freshly molted! My guess is somewhere between one and 2 weeks. Thanks for the ID! ( :? Popcorn Spider :? )
Popcorn spider bit is a joke - normally people post a question here looking for ID and there are many totally random guesses so far off the mark that you may as well sit back, eat some popcorn and enjoy the show!

Martin H.
06-09-2005, 12:33 PM
Anyone with a fair degree of knowlege please voice your thoughts.http://www.snowcrest.net/cafemocha/images/Garfield%20Popcorn.gif

ink_scorpion
06-12-2005, 02:14 PM
http://www.snowcrest.net/cafemocha/images/Garfield%20Popcorn.gif

{D Talk about jumping on a band wagon {D Wish I could say this helped me a little, but it didn't. :shame: ;P

MsDemeanor
06-12-2005, 03:29 PM
Nope, doesn't look like a suntiger to me, here's mine.
Just managed to take it out for a picture or two for you. I am kinda glad it likes me lol. Yurs def looks to be Haplopelma sp.

http://tinypic.com/5wwc5u

http://tinypic.com/5wwdj8

David Burns
06-12-2005, 06:48 PM
Nope, doesn't look like a suntiger to me, here's mine.
Just managed to take it out for a picture or two for you. I am kinda glad it likes me lol. Yurs def looks to be Haplopelma sp.

http://tinypic.com/5wwc5u

http://tinypic.com/5wwdj8
This doesn't look like a suntiger ( P.irminia) either. It looks like a P.cambridgei.

It might be a mature male P.irminia. But I don't think so.

MsDemeanor
06-13-2005, 08:49 PM
LOL, it's about 2 inches :)

David Burns
06-13-2005, 09:21 PM
LOL, it's about 2 inches :)
Then it is a P.cambridgei for sure.

MsDemeanor
06-13-2005, 09:59 PM
What makes you say that? :)

SinisterSpiders
06-13-2005, 10:05 PM
Im gonna go with Hapalopelma sp. Vietnam.

ink_scorpion
06-13-2005, 10:14 PM
What makes you say that? :)

Yes, what are you basing your ID on? I would lean more toward a young male P. irminia in MsD's case than P. cambridgei. It just looks to be displaying more P. irminia type features, IMO. :D

Sinister, thanks for the confirmation! Much appreciated! :worship:

Jasonic
06-14-2005, 01:54 AM
Nope, not Psalmopoeus at all. Definitly Asian imho read=> lack of Irdicating hairs, exhibiting a typicaly Haplopelma style tiger rump. Also, has terestrial feet. Suntiger shots below have the tell tale arboreal widened "bell bottom" feet of the front legs out of frame.

Again, no way its new world, or arboreal. Start by viewing pics of some of the darker Asian species like H.Schmidti (dark phase), or H.Minax, then go from there.

my 2 cents,

-jasonic

F. J. A.
06-14-2005, 07:44 AM
This doesn't look like a suntiger ( P.irminia) either. It looks like a P.cambridgei.

It might be a mature male P.irminia.
That's a joke, isn't it? :?


Nope, not Psalmopoeus at all. Definitly Asian imho read=> lack of Irdicating hairs
Does Psalmopoeus posses urticating hairs? ;) ;P (sorry, couldn't resist...)

aaronrefalo
06-14-2005, 02:50 PM
its surly a haplopelma sp....ahes cute...

David Burns
06-14-2005, 04:25 PM
What makes you say that? :)
In reference to the photo MsDemeanor posted; A P.irminia is black and red, in the female its whole life, in the male until it matures and then it become, an olive green.

The P.cambridgei (Trinidad cheveron) Is a greenish olive from sling to adult.

David Burns
06-14-2005, 04:30 PM
Yes, what are you basing your ID on? I would lean more toward a young male P. irminia in MsD's case than P. cambridgei. It just looks to be displaying more P. irminia type features, IMO. :D

Sinister, thanks for the confirmation! Much appreciated! :worship:
My P.irminia,whether male or female, were black and red from sling to adult. The male turned greenish upon maturity.

David Burns
06-14-2005, 04:35 PM
Nope, not Psalmopoeus at all. Definitly Asian imho read=> lack of Irdicating hairs, exhibiting a typicaly Haplopelma style tiger rump. Also, has terestrial feet. Suntiger shots below have the tell tale arboreal widened "bell bottom" feet of the front legs out of frame.

Again, no way its new world, or arboreal. Start by viewing pics of some of the darker Asian species like H.Schmidti (dark phase), or H.Minax, then go from there.

my 2 cents,

-jasonic
Are you refering to the first pics in the thread or the pics that I quoted in my initial response. I was refering to the pic I quoted.

David Burns
06-14-2005, 04:38 PM
That's a joke, isn't it? :?
I was refering to the second set of pics, as per my quote. What did you think was a joke?

Don't you guys read the whole thread?

FryLock
06-14-2005, 04:55 PM
P.irminia sometimes look an "ugly duck" for bit as juv's (not as sharply black and red/orange as adult females) my own do atm and are not cam or cross's with cam not that p.cam are ugly anyway.

David Burns
06-14-2005, 04:59 PM
P.irminia sometimes look an "ugly duck" for bit as juv's (not as sharply black and red/orange as adult females) my own do atm and are not cam or cross's with cam not that p.cam are ugly anyway.
So, are you saying that the second set of pics are P.irminia? They look like P.cams to me. I would be interested in your opinion.

My P.irminia never looked like that!

FryLock
06-14-2005, 05:25 PM
So, are you saying that the second set of pics are P.irminia? They look like P.cams to me. I would be interested in your opinion.

My P.irminia never looked like that!

Mine own certainly look “washed out” like Ms demeanours at the size they are now but I can see there developing spermathecae and maxillary lyra which I can’t see on a pic, and I also know there from two P.irm adults I don’t know if that’s the case here.

So I would say have some popcorn on me but being a brit have some nice fish and chips instead ;).

David Burns
06-14-2005, 05:33 PM
Mine own certainly look “washed out” like Ms demeanours at the size they are now but I can see there developing spermathecae and maxillary lyra which I can’t see on a pic, and I also know there from two P.irm adults I don’t know if that’s the case here.

So I would say have some popcorn on me but being a brit have some nice fish and chips instead ;).
Looks good, a couple of Guinness and I'm all set.:)