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MizM
06-13-2005, 06:02 PM
I FINALLY booted four snakes out of the house... and came back from the conference with this big girl. Yes, she is very handleable, the second pic shows my husband petting her big fat butt! :p The first pic is the "before" shot, the rosy boa was in there. And the last, well, you can see. She's got two waterfalls, an African violet, another plant, and the hide she's lived with for the past few years. I tried something new with this one, I buried a heat rock under the substrate on one side, I'm testing it out to see if she appears to utilize the warmth.

Lorgakor
06-13-2005, 06:09 PM
I don't see any pictures?

MizM
06-13-2005, 06:10 PM
They just popped in, and before and after got switched! :8o

Beardo
06-13-2005, 07:37 PM
If you're using a heat rock...don't be surprised if you come home to a fried spider one day.

becca81
06-13-2005, 07:45 PM
If you're using a heat rock...don't be surprised if you come home to a fried spider one day.

She did say that she buried it. Depending on how deep she buried it, I don't think it is hot enough to heat the substrate above it to dangerous levels.

Ravienne
06-13-2005, 07:54 PM
I heard that spiders will instinctively dig to escape heat, though. But then, I could be wrong, like I was about blondis' growth.

She's a beautiful little lady, by the way. Well, perhaps not so little. . . Anyway, congrats!

MizM
06-13-2005, 07:56 PM
She did say that she buried it. Depending on how deep she buried it, I don't think it is hot enough to heat the substrate above it to dangerous levels.


It's under 6" of substrate. If she shows ANY signs of burrowing in that direction, it's outta there. And don't worry, I've had a tiny bit of experience with Ts, I wouldn't do ANYTHING that could potentially harm my big, fat baby!

ink_scorpion
06-13-2005, 07:56 PM
Beautiful T. blondi! :drool: But I would file a "heat rock" in folder #13, if you know what I mean. IMO, a big waste of money. :shame:

becca81
06-13-2005, 07:57 PM
Beautiful T. blondi! :drool: But I would file a "heat rock" in folder #13, if you know what I mean. IMO, a big waste of money. :shame:

I think MizM knows what she's doing and wouldn't do anything to harm any of her Ts. We all try out new things and it gives us more information on what works and what doesn't.

darkeye
06-13-2005, 08:01 PM
Seems like I missed a nice T there, Ter...

<sigh>

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Beardo
06-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Just going on my experiences and knowledge of heat rocks from keeping reptiles for 10 years, I say the only good heat rock is one with a severed cord.

Mike H.
06-13-2005, 08:45 PM
Hey Terry, congrats on the new edition !! my big mature male blondi is out on a breeding lone right now...hoping for a bunch of baby blondi's... ;)


Regards, Mike :clap:

ink_scorpion
06-13-2005, 10:33 PM
I think MizM knows what she's doing and wouldn't do anything to harm any of her Ts. We all try out new things and it gives us more information on what works and what doesn't.

I read those exact words in one of your previous posts. I certainly wasn't insinuating that MizM would harm a T, so I don't understand where you read that. I was just voicing my experiences, as well as experiences that I've read about on boards such as this one. :D

becca81
06-13-2005, 10:42 PM
I read those exact words in one of your previous posts. I certainly wasn't insinuating that MizM would harm a T, so I don't understand where you read that. I was just voicing my experiences, as well as experiences that I've read about on boards such as this one. :D

I only said that once. :?

Anyways, I'm not saying that you said that, I'm just saying it in general in response to a couple of posts regarding the heat rock. I wouldn't use by itself in a tank, but I've never thought about burying it and it'll be interested to see if it works or not. I'm just saying that she has the experience to know what is and isn't dangerous, and although heat rocks are typically taboo, in this case it *may* be okay.

It wasn't necessarily directed at you and I wasn't trying to be rude. I apologize if it came off the wrong way.

MizM
06-13-2005, 10:47 PM
Thanks for the confidence in my T keeping! No harm, all opinions welcome, even "lose the rock!" :D I enjoy, and learn from everyone's experiences, opinions, input, etc.

The heat rock is actually the old one from the rosy cage. She would lay on it after eating a big fat mouse to help her digest. She got very restless when I took it out, so I had to put it back in.

When I was creating the blondi terrarium, I was thinking that perhaps the extra heat well below the substrate would help keep the humidity up a bit, I detest misting, but blondis are so moisture dependant. It can't hurt to try, I'm observing her closely, and if it helps, why not? I also use roly-poly bugs in blondi enclosures to clean up any little vermin, mold or what-have-you that shows up.

This poor girl has never been given the opportunity to burrow, I'm anxious to see what's she'll do with different opportunities.

ink_scorpion
06-13-2005, 10:57 PM
There's also an electric shock risk with something like that. I honestly hope all goes well. :D

MizM
06-14-2005, 09:56 PM
There's also an electric shock risk with something like that. I honestly hope all goes well. :D


Under dry dirt? :confused:

greenfiremajick
06-14-2005, 10:07 PM
Yes, but sometimes at the expense of the T's! I'm way too paranoid to put in a heat rock...Though with some of my snakes, torts and lizards I have used one...But I usually put a sock over it, and use a rubberband to close off the opening! I've seen too many burned bellies to use heat rocks carelessly!!!



I think MizM knows what she's doing and wouldn't do anything to harm any of her Ts. We all try out new things and it gives us more information on what works and what doesn't.

greenfiremajick
06-14-2005, 10:09 PM
gotta' disagree..they can be useful if under other rocks, or wrapped in a sock...however, then you have to worry about shorts, burns, etc!!!



Just going on my experiences and knowledge of heat rocks from keeping reptiles for 10 years, I say the only good heat rock is one with a severed cord.

greenfiremajick
06-14-2005, 10:48 PM
What is the reputation for how often blondi's burrow?? I was given one by a friend and it doesn't seem to want to burrow at all





Thanks for the confidence in my T keeping! No harm, all opinions welcome, even "lose the rock!" :D I enjoy, and learn from everyone's experiences, opinions, input, etc.

The heat rock is actually the old one from the rosy cage. She would lay on it after eating a big fat mouse to help her digest. She got very restless when I took it out, so I had to put it back in.

When I was creating the blondi terrarium, I was thinking that perhaps the extra heat well below the substrate would help keep the humidity up a bit, I detest misting, but blondis are so moisture dependant. It can't hurt to try, I'm observing her closely, and if it helps, why not? I also use roly-poly bugs in blondi enclosures to clean up any little vermin, mold or what-have-you that shows up.

This poor girl has never been given the opportunity to burrow, I'm anxious to see what's she'll do with different opportunities.

Vys
06-15-2005, 03:55 AM
That looks like a really nicely set up enclosure! Does she ever go near the running water?

Deschain
06-15-2005, 06:09 AM
What is the reputation for how often blondi's burrow?? I was given one by a friend and it doesn't seem to want to burrow at all

They're opportunistic burrowers, taking over burrows made by another animal in the wild.

If you give them a hole to move into, they will (in most cases), do some rearranging to suite themselves, but they need it to be pre-exisiting...at least from my experience.

Greg Wolfe
06-15-2005, 01:35 PM
Wow Ter!
Beautiful set up! Your new blondi looks plump and healthy! Sweet! :worship: :)

Keith Richard
06-15-2005, 01:54 PM
It'll be very interesting to hear your results with the "hot rock" Terri. My 5" G. Pulchra always seems drawn to the side of her tank that has a "heating mat" affixed. She usually perches on top of the artificial log where she can get closest to the warmth. Of course, I too am very careful and tend not to let her overheat herself by unplugging when I think she's nearing "medium rare". However, she seems to know when she's had enough as she doesn't just sit there permanently.

greenfiremajick
06-15-2005, 03:02 PM
Thx! think i'll make one for her then!!



They're opportunistic burrowers, taking over burrows made by another animal in the wild.

If you give them a hole to move into, they will (in most cases), do some rearranging to suite themselves, but they need it to be pre-exisiting...at least from my experience.

Beardo
06-15-2005, 03:20 PM
gotta' disagree..they can be useful if under other rocks, or wrapped in a sock...however, then you have to worry about shorts, burns, etc!!!

Oh...so shorting out and burning your animal isn't a big concern for you then? lol...I stand by my opinion that the only good hot rock is one with a severed cord. They make great paper weights....but they're terrible as a heat source for ectotherms.

Trenth_171
06-15-2005, 03:33 PM
I think everyone has got your "opinion" by now :wall:

MizM
06-15-2005, 10:04 PM
:eek: I simply cannot believe this. She was in pre-molt, but not quite as dark as others I've seen. I checked her this morning and she was in her log hide, and I came home to this:
(The exuvia measures 8", wonder how big she is NOW!)
Edit: And she's a SHE!! {D :D {D

Grimlock
06-16-2005, 02:22 AM
WOW. How exciting! Despite all the arguments over the heat rock thingy, I say awesome spider! And I trust your judgement.

Congrats on the molt. Please post post molt pics. ;)

pandinus
06-16-2005, 03:31 AM
i love that spider Terri! beautiful enclosure. hmm... it seemed bigger when you had itout in the elevator... oh well, it's not important, its still a gorgeous girl! hope mine grows up to bbe just like it.

darkeye
06-16-2005, 04:13 AM
<SNIP>, I detest misting, but blondis are so moisture dependant. <SNIP>

Ter,
Didn't I read that Rick West kept his T.blondi dry and was not experiencing any problems? My T.apophysis is working its way towards a dry cage, and doesn't seem any worse for it.

I do give it some rainfall every other week or so, and she really seems ok (so far).

Pics after the molt please????

:)

Mike H.
06-16-2005, 09:48 AM
Ter,
Didn't I read that Rick West kept his T.blondi dry and was not experiencing any problems? My T.apophysis is working its way towards a dry cage, and doesn't seem any worse for it.

I do give it some rainfall every other week or so, and she really seems ok (so far).

Pics after the molt please????

:)


If anyone has the link with Rick West talking about keeping blondi dry could they please post it...I keep my blondi on the dry side and am always interesed in what he has to say...

Regards, Mike :rolleyes:

Bluethunder
06-16-2005, 04:40 PM
What did you ever do with the rosy(s)? I am looking to get 1 or 2 of those snakes. I have a real nice female Blondi too...my best T. She is a real glutton...I fed her 2 half size mice (deer) and she is looking for more. Believe me...this t. can handle mice with ease. I would be hesitant feeding her adult mice...just because they can bite back. :eek:

MizM
06-16-2005, 10:38 PM
What did you ever do with the rosy(s)? I am looking to get 1 or 2 of those snakes. I have a real nice female Blondi too...my best T. She is a real glutton...I fed her 2 half size mice (deer) and she is looking for more. Believe me...this t. can handle mice with ease. I would be hesitant feeding her adult mice...just because they can bite back. :eek:

I only had one rosy. My friend, PenneyW, came over Sunday and picked up all my snakes but the ball. I needed more free enclosures after the conference! :p

I'll post pics as soon as she hardens up. I'm hesitant to disturb her again. The idea of a dry blondi cage is intriguing. I'll e-mail Rick and get the details.

DON'T FEED YOUR BLONDI VERTEBRATES ONLY! I posted this on another thread, but it seems a diet of just vertebrates gives the T too much calcium, which intereferes with the magnesium in their fangs or chelierae. R.I.E.S.M. is investigating this as a possible cause of fangs falling out in blondi! :eek: Until more is found out, I'm going to rely on hissers and crix. From now on, vertebrates are for post-molt or post-sac fattening up ONLY!