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BarnSpider
06-15-2005, 09:40 PM
Hello,
I just joined the list today, so bear with me if I make any mistakes. I took a pic of a spider that had a silken retreat where the wall & ceiling meet. I know that Sac Spiders build a silken retreat, but this spider was very dark in coloration unlike the Sac Spiders I've seen, & the front two legs didn't seem real long like a Sac Spiders would be. It was about a 1/2" long. Here's the pic of it. Any ideas? I live in Wisconsin in case anyone is wondering where I am. Thanks!

Jim in WI.

cacoseraph
06-15-2005, 11:00 PM
aw heck, i guess i'll throw out a guess

Tegenarian family, mabye?

they are, after all, house spiders :)

and they can make sheet webs like that

it doesn't really look much like a sac spider to me, but i'm only even remotely familiar with california bugs... and even there i'm still guessing

i've said it before and i'll say it again:

identity is in the eyes of the spider

try to get a pic of eye arrangement, if you can

BarnSpider
06-15-2005, 11:23 PM
I already did a capture & release. I would have taken more photos, but right now I'm still waiting to collect a few more pickle & jelly jars for "critter keepers". Not knowing if it was mildly toxic like Sac Spiders are I didn't want to take the chance. Too close to my bedroom. :)

Jim in WI.

JPD
06-16-2005, 12:38 AM
Purseweb perhaps?

NRF
06-16-2005, 09:28 AM
IŽd say it belongs to Gnaphosidae. Spinnerets and the curved position of the front legs...

ilovebugs
06-16-2005, 12:36 PM
IMO it looks like a Grass Spider, Agelenopsis pennsylvanica. but I could be totally wrong.

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/spiders/agelen_penn1.jpg

they make amazing webs, with long tunnels. it's kind of odd to me that it would be on the ceiling though.

Venom
06-16-2005, 04:20 PM
Hey Jim, welcome to the boards!

And yes, it is definitely a Gnaphosidae, possibly the parson ( Herpyllus ecclesiasticus ) though I can't tell through the webbing. Parsons are mildly venomous.