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cacoseraph
09-16-2005, 11:45 AM
I don't know what these are... i've gotten stung a couple of times an absolutely nothing happens. That seems to be my reaction to Vaejovid venom... and we have a bunch of Vaejovids in CA, and these sort of look like Vaejovids... but i don't know what they are =P

This scorpion is about ~2" long, i believe
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_board_01a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_board_01b.jpg)


Different scorp, i dug this one out of a couple thousand pounds of rocks. About 1.5" (4cm) long.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_rocky_02a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_rocky_02b.jpg)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_rocky_03a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_rocky_03b.jpg)

I found this scorp under a mattress in The Wastelands... a spot moderately close to my house. It is too hard to describe, but i will get pics of the area one day :) This guy almost ran up my pants when i was trying to catch it, made it as far as my shoe. So now it's name is "Shoey". About 1.5-2" (4-5cm) long.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_01a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_01b.jpg)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_02a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_02b.jpg)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_03a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_03b.jpg)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_04a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_shoey_04b.jpg)

This is the first scorpion i found in San Bernardino County. I found it almost by accident. It was in an abandoned and caved-in rodent burrow. I found it basically on the surface during the day in 100*F temperature... tough cookie :)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_primero_01a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_primero_01b.jpg)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_primero_02a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_primero_02b.jpg)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_primero_03a.jpg
Hi-Res (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/local_ground_scorp_primero_03b.jpg)

GQ.
09-16-2005, 12:04 PM
Nice finds! Has there been any moisture up there lately? I'll be in the San Bernardino/Loma Linda/Ontario/Colton area for a day next week. I'm thinking about taking a quick hike in the Box Springs Canyon area. I'll be sure to post a picture or two if I find anything.

Malhavoc's
09-16-2005, 03:50 PM
Looks liek the lil ones I caught awhile back, Congrads I new you could find em, although they can be hard when you live in the cities :) Theres also some Andocts out there aswell, Do a search for my user name in this forum, or I will later. see if I can find the threads I started to get htem ID'd

cacoseraph
09-16-2005, 03:54 PM
Nice finds! Has there been any moisture up there lately? I'll be in the San Bernardino/Loma Linda/Ontario/Colton area for a day next week. I'm thinking about taking a quick hike in the Box Springs Canyon area. I'll be sure to post a picture or two if I find anything.

it was misty/drizzling (Who Is The Drizzle!?) this morning, and has generally been cooler and cloudier the last 3-4 days.

there is generally condensation in the mornings year round, in my experience, in most of So. CA, i think that is what most bugs drink during the dry season.

like TheNothing (and others, i'm sure) have said... it's all about the microhabitat :)

cacoseraph
09-16-2005, 03:56 PM
since this is for local scorps...

here is a scorp i caught in Los Angeles County, in Pomona, CA. it has since died, but i really want to find and culture more!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/cacoseraph/scorpion/local/Anuroctonus_phaiodactylus.jpg

TheNothing
09-16-2005, 04:03 PM
Vaejovidae, yes, but not a Vaejovis species
i'd be guessing Paruroctonus species

http://sparkless.net/matt/SanBernardino.htm

TheNothing
09-16-2005, 04:04 PM
actually
the one in the second group of pictures does look like it might be Vaejovis confusus

cacoseraph
09-16-2005, 04:21 PM
Vaejovidae, yes, but not a Vaejovis species
i'd be guessing Paruroctonus species

http://sparkless.net/matt/SanBernardino.htm

heh, yeah i just looked at that and noticed a distinct lack of Vaejovis genus :)

i was just guessing, i haven't keyed at all

cacoseraph
09-16-2005, 04:23 PM
actually
the one in the second group of pictures does look like it might be Vaejovis confusus

ah crap

you think the four might not all be the same species?

dang, i'm going to have to buy an expensive book to key them, i think, i f i want to safely breed these guys

ooh, maybe i can find something at a university library

these guys are VERY reactive... like i mentioned i've already been stung a number of times by them :)

TheNothing
09-16-2005, 04:33 PM
yeah
thats what I like US natives
most all of them are super active and agressive....

good luck finding a book to key them, you're gonna have to track down individual papers.


Not sure that they're all the same, but could be... thats the problem with Vaejovidae though, so many species and you can only tell 5 of them apart :D

Brian S
09-16-2005, 04:38 PM
Those first few pics look similar to a Serradigitus spp. Not sure if that is correct or not though.

TheNothing
09-16-2005, 04:44 PM
oh man
good call Brian
dunno why i didn't think of that
S. gertschi gertschi is usually darker...

Serradigitus wupatkiensis perhaps?

Malhavoc's
09-16-2005, 04:45 PM
Just a hint Caco, AZ might be the scorp capital of the states, but California has double the species count, making them all so much more fun to identify, if you can find any damn human settlements

ink_scorpion
09-16-2005, 08:24 PM
Those first few pics look similar to a Serradigitus spp. Not sure if that is correct or not though.

Was my first thought too. Good Eye! :D

redhourglass
09-16-2005, 09:57 PM
Hi.

Yep good luck LOL.

I wonder why I have a file of papers/reprints/pdf to discuss such issues.

Cheers.

Sinc. Chad



good luck finding a book to key them, you're gonna have to track down individual papers.
Not sure that they're all the same, but could be... thats the problem with Vaejovidae though, so many species and you can only tell 5 of them apart :D