Need IDof True spider

[Scorpfanatic]

any one know the ID one this two true spider? both about 20mm

FIrst one
http://images.individualistic.multiply.com/image/1/photos/26/600x600/15.jpg?enctoken=UmFuZG9tSVbziL7wpLQ,cdl,n0cpuzr1tu ,KL9IQstjqLaBa83uvxVoDSOjmAaHk
http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/26/15.jpg
http://images.individualistic.multiply.com/image/1/photos/26/600x600/17.jpg?enctoken=UmFuZG9tSVbziL7wpLQ,cdl,n0cpuzr1tu ,KL9IQstgGELUzLdXF5Ti,osD68j6y
http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/26/17.jpg

Second one
http://images.individualistic.multiply.com/image/1/photos/26/600x600/19.jpg?enctoken=UmFuZG9tSVbziL7wpLQ,cdl,n0cpuzr1tu ,KL9IQstjpOymiRBzk98ajbzk.5bvJ
http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/26/19.jpg

[Stefan2209]

Hey,

some very strange spiders you´ve got there.

The second one seems to be a sparassid (eye-pattern) of some kind, maybe not even an adult.

To the first one, i´ve never seen something like this. While the body reminds me on some kind of huntsman the long spinnerets just don´t fit.

Perhaps it might help to know where you´re located...

Greetings,

Stefan

[Scorpfanatic]

my guess for the second is also a sling.. haha and also will the leg regenerate? seems that oits a 7 legged spider. im from singapore by the way? teh 1st one caught it near a pond.. on the rocks surroundung the pong had it for quite some while though. was hoping the secnod pic is a sling, cos that means ot will grow till Quite big haha>>

[Stefan2209]

Hi again,

guess it´s a sling, otherwise the eye-body ratio would be quite strange. If it´s indeed a sling the leg will regenerate with the next molts.

The first one was found along a pond? Before i noticed the long spinnerets my first guess would have been something like Trechalea. If it´s found in Singapore how about Thalassius? I haven´t ever seen such a specimen in "real-life", but they´re said to grow quite big and as Ancylometes they´re half-aquatic living... ?

Greetings,

Stefan

[Scorpfanatic]

by the way this is wat i caught some time ago,, with an egg sac, with my frine now and the babies have hatched fromn the sac, mum is seperated, will she die soon? she about 6-7cm leg wide spread {D

http://images.individualistic.multiply.com/image/1/photos/26/600x600/21.jpg?enctoken=UmFuZG9tSVbziL7wpLQ,cdl,n0cpuzr1tu ,KL9IQstjHXD76Fgh0s5uOh4cqXd5x

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/26/21.jpg

http://images.individualistic.multiply.com/image/1/photos/26/600x600/23.jpg?enctoken=UmFuZG9tSVbziL7wpLQ,cdl,n0cpuzr1tu ,KL9IQstjkbHWjxVkTtZtmW0H0HKFT

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/26/23.jpg

[Stefan2209]

Whoa,

that second shot is great!

Just because she built a sac doesn´t necessarily mean she´ll die. Depends on her age, was it her first sac or the fourth, fifth? Generally spoken, if it´s her first, i don´t think she´ll die too soon. In that case you better prepare for some follow-up sacs to be build.

If it´s already her XXth sac it may well be that she´s soon gonna die.

However, hard to say with a wild-caught specimen...

Greetings,

Stefan

[Scorpfanatic]

i dint know how many sacs she have but she real skinny now and not eating> only can let you know the size though haha. hope she doesnt die cos she such a real beauti thats how i started interest in spiders!

waiting for you to addme on MSN

[Stefan2209]

Hmm,

being skinny is pretty normal if she´s built a sac.

Being not hungry is a different story... How long ago has the sac been built? Is she still guarding it? When she´s still guarding it, it´s ok that she isn´t accepting any food.

If the sacs built some time ago and the slings hatched already, she should be very hungry... If that case should be true, not eating could indeed be a sign of near death... That´s how it went with one of my malaysian Heteropodas, built a sac, some time later destroyed it, didn´t accept any prey, died. :(

Sorry, i don´t have any messenger programs :shame:

Greetings,

Stefan

[Scorpfanatic]

ah i see.. the babies hatched she had left the sac i caught sone like 2mths ago..

lets jus keep fingers scorss haha getting it back from my frined soon!

[WithCerberus]

Check out these links for the first spider. Looks to be a pretty good match

http://habitatnews.nus.edu.sg/guidebooks/spiders/text/Hersilia.htm

http://www.cyberoz.net/city/sekine/SA-05.htm

peace,
Bobby

[Scorpfanatic]

guess it should be closer to the first link that you have but the size mention there does not match, haha my specimen is about 20mm but there it stated that female(bidder one) only 8.5-10 mm. unless thats wthout the legs? :?

[WithCerberus]

the 8.5-10 mm refers to the body length. Is your 20mm total length?

[Scorpfanatic]

yes haha the total length.. ok guess im wrong hahahah! how do people usual measure length of spiders? body length without legs?

[agentbsmithi]

yes haha the total length.. ok guess im wrong hahahah! how do people usual measure length of spiders? body length without legs?

if, for true spiders, its the same as tarantulas, you measure from the back leg to the front.

[Tony]

Hersiliid spider, giveaway is the third pair of short legs , spinnerettes also.....
From what I know anyway