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kennfreeloader
06-03-2006, 09:32 AM
This is the pic of one of the supplier's females that iv posted up in the discussions thread earlier. I was told that it is supposed to be an apophysis but due to the fact that the sling's do not have pink feet, they have labled it sp "Venezuela".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/Theraphosa_sp_Venezuela_Female.jpg

here's a sling
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/tapophperhaps.jpg

LukaszWarsaw
06-03-2006, 09:44 AM
nice spider

MRL
06-03-2006, 09:48 AM
T. apophysis without pink feet? :eek:

brachy
06-03-2006, 11:10 AM
Hi

I think it is ''only'' T. apophysis, only its tarsal and metatarsal hairs are darker. The lines on leg what is charakteristic to species you dont see because the female is quite old.

Bearo
06-03-2006, 05:53 PM
I have heard about T. apophysis without pink feet before... some breader in Canada had some discution about that a while back... declared to his custemers that it really was T. apophysis he sold and was shore... Proberbly someone in Canada knows what I mean..

tarcan
06-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Bearo,

No it is the other way around, T. blondi with pink feet

Take care

Martin

CedrikG
06-03-2006, 09:27 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d72/Kirdec/blondipink.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d72/Kirdec/prosoma.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d72/Kirdec/blondileg.jpg

Scolopendra55
06-04-2006, 02:05 AM
Very nice pics!

Bearo
06-04-2006, 07:06 AM
Bearo,

No it is the other way around, T. blondi with pink feet

Take care

Martin
aahh.. ok.. then never mind hehe

eman
06-04-2006, 10:32 AM
kennfreeloader:

It would be nice to see some pics of that sling on a darker background, such as a peice of cork bark or on dark soil... I can see much lighter tarsal and metatarsal segments from the picture you posted but the background really doesn't help to make that stand out.

Also, pics of that same sling after it's next molt would also be good.

M.F.Bagaturov
06-09-2006, 12:25 PM
Hello!

This is the pic of one of the supplier's females that iv posted up in the discussions thread earlier. I was told that it is supposed to be an apophysis but due to the fact that the sling's do not have pink feet, they have labled it sp "Venezuela".
here's a sling
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/tapophperhaps.jpg

Sling is definately in premolt so anybody also can tell it is lasiodora spp as well...
So, this pic mean nothing to me and the adult is definately looks nothing like T. apophysis...

kennfreeloader
06-09-2006, 01:30 PM
possibly, unfortunately it wasn't in permoult when the pic was snapped, infact it hasn't moulted till this day and it just took a few crickets last week. will update this thread if i get new findings, thanx for the feedback=)

Gigas
06-09-2006, 02:37 PM
Bearo,

No it is the other way around, T. blondi with pink feet

Take care

Martin
What>? i thought that was why Apophysis were called pink foot* Birdeaters????????

MRL
06-09-2006, 03:16 PM
What>? i thought that was why Apophysis were called pink foot* Birdeaters????????
Some T. blondi babies have been said to have pink feet.

eman
06-09-2006, 03:20 PM
possibly, unfortunately it wasn't in permoult when the pic was snapped, infact it hasn't moulted till this day and it just took a few crickets last week. will update this thread if i get new findings, thanx for the feedback=)

Again: :wall:

It would be nice to see some pics of that sling on a darker background, such as a peice of cork bark or on dark soil... I can see much lighter tarsal and metatarsal segments from the picture you posted but the background really doesn't help to make that stand out.

Gigas
06-09-2006, 03:30 PM
Some T. blondi babies have been said to have pink feet.
but he says No it is the other way around, T. blondi with pink feet

The main feature for apophysis slings is pink feet hes saying its a main feature of Blondi slings? have i been lied to for a very long time?

eman
06-09-2006, 04:24 PM
but he says
The main feature for apophysis slings is pink feet hes saying its a main feature of Blondi slings? have i been lied to for a very long time?

I don't think anyone is saying that pink feet are the "main feature" for either of the two species...

T. apophysis slings typically do have prominent pink "gloves" on the tarsus and on the metatarsus. Additionally, there seems to have been cases where blondi slings have also shown pink feet as mentioned above.

Some are hinting at the possibility of a third species in the Theraphosa genus. Others suggest hybridization... it makes for some interesting speculation. ;)

Also the picture of the Theraphosa sp. Venezuela sling on this thread does not properly display the specimen at all... the background is pink!

Gigas
06-09-2006, 04:30 PM
Yes eman i realise that, i was in the other thread

kennfreeloader
06-10-2006, 02:27 AM
lol, im gona post as soon as i get a better cam, the current cam im having now isnt good enough, hopefully i can borrow my friends cam tonight

RVS
06-10-2006, 02:32 AM
I'm really hoping this is something new. I have my fingers crossed.
Theraphosa is easily one of my favorite genera.

Tarantula
06-16-2006, 04:21 AM
Are you sure both are the same species? The large specimen looks like T. apophysis and the slings like T. blondi. Remember that both species occur in Venezuela. How ever blondi only occur in the southern part of the contry. Could you find out more where they are caught?

brigebane
06-16-2006, 10:26 AM
If sold as a sling and not a juvinile, why then is this so called Lasiodora not alot smaller? looks very much like Theraphosa to me.


Hello!



Sling is definately in premolt so anybody also can tell it is lasiodora spp as well...
So, this pic mean nothing to me and the adult is definately looks nothing like T. apophysis...

Tarantula
06-16-2006, 02:50 PM
I can sell a sling and write adult in the ad.. dont make it adult just because I write it... ;)

kennfreeloader
07-26-2006, 11:57 PM
Ok this sling 3 weeks ago and its the only moult since i took the prev pic in this thread. I'll post pics of it again if it moults.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/DSC00136.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/theraphosa.jpg

2.5" sling

so watcha think?

Tarantula
07-27-2006, 03:02 PM
dont see pic...

Gigas
07-27-2006, 03:12 PM
? even if you direct link it? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/DSC00136.jpg , from the pics Kenn i can definately say its a theraphosa.... still too small for a positive ID Imo

xgrafcorex
07-27-2006, 05:37 PM
? even if you direct link it? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/kennfreeloader/DSC00136.jpg , from the pics Kenn i can definately say its a theraphosa.... still too small for a positive ID Imo

it doesn't work for me :(

Lorgakor
07-27-2006, 05:39 PM
I can't see them either.

brachy
07-27-2006, 06:05 PM
Hi

Im thinking this T. sp Venezuela is very stupid marketing working. In this hobby its full lot... :(

Gigas
07-27-2006, 06:40 PM
dont see pic...
it doesn't work for me
I cant see them either
Are you all using firefox or something, try a different web browser

*EDIT* just as i thought hy, maybe i could host the pics seperately for those guys, they dissapear!, it says they have been moved or deleted

*edit2* i swear im not on drugs, theyre back, i hope you dont mind Kenn im re hosting them at the end of the thread so people can hopefully see them

Scorp guy
07-27-2006, 06:49 PM
Are you all using firefox or something, try a different web browser

can i qoute myself:p i dont see either.

Gigas
07-27-2006, 06:55 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/shexshbychris/DSC001361.jpg
and
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/shexshbychris/theraphosa1.jpg
There Are the Pics, hopefully you can see them now

eman
07-27-2006, 08:32 PM
Interesting... it sort of "looks" like a blondi sling. It certainly does not look like an apophysis IMO. Who knows if it is even related to the adult WC specimen (which started this thread). In any case, it will be interesting to see how it develops. Keep us posted.

kennfreeloader
07-27-2006, 10:59 PM
sorry for not fixing the problem quickly enough, it was working fine before i went to bed.
Gigus:thanx alot for hosting them for me:)
im p feeding it, this one took 2 months to reach its latest moult, probably gona take another month before it moults again.

eman: yeah, am quite worried as to what it will grow up to be..hope its an apoph

if anyone has any blondi sling pics, perhaps you can post them here for reference.

thanx.

Gigas
07-28-2006, 08:14 AM
It was wierd Kenn i could see them but no one else could?

BLS Blondi
07-28-2006, 08:43 AM
In my opinion, it is all BS. If it is not a T. blondi or T. apophysis, then it is probably a hybrid. Case in point: I bought a handful of P. "ecuador I and II". With the exception of one, they are all P. platyomma.

diKe
07-29-2006, 03:09 AM
and the adult is definately looks nothing like T. apophysis...

Why not? I am quite sure it is T. apophysis.

eman
08-04-2006, 03:19 PM
Why not? I am quite sure it is T. apophysis.

I agree... here's a picture from Rick West' site: http://www.birdspiders.com/archive/11175979G65B0G4607G3A7C20F394AFCAD7.html

It looks quite similar to this "sp. Venezuela" IMO.

Cheers!

HuonHengChai
08-10-2006, 01:24 PM
i looks really like a T. blondi sling, a real fat one thou

stewartb
08-10-2006, 05:29 PM
In my opinion, it is all BS. If it is not a T. blondi or T. apophysis, then it is probably a hybrid. Case in point: I bought a handful of P. "ecuador I and II". With the exception of one, they are all P. platyomma.


?????????????

How do you know they were "platyomma"????????

Regards,

Stew.