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TAG Exotics
10-03-2006, 04:59 AM
i got this back...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/spiderygoodness/P1010853.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/spiderygoodness/P1010857.jpg

Natemass
10-03-2006, 05:28 AM
his time to go?how long ago was his ultimate molt?

Redip Spider
10-03-2006, 07:16 AM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but why would you ever need to cut off a leg like that? Something involving the mating process? Or animal cruelity?

cb45
10-03-2006, 07:55 AM
Maybe its just the way the picture has been taken, but it looks as if that entire side of legs has been cut off.

DE3
10-03-2006, 08:18 AM
the info at hand is disturbing...an explanation is in order.

bonesmama
10-03-2006, 08:46 AM
When I saw the first pic,all I thought was- what are those scissors doing in there? The second pic definately freaked me out-- you have to find out what happened.......they are just too weird!

becca81
10-03-2006, 08:53 AM
I'm a bit confused about what we're seeing and what happened - can you please give some more detail?

Did the person send you this to show you that the spider had passed away? Did it arrive DOA? Was this supposed to be proof that it was dead?

demode
10-03-2006, 08:59 AM
:eek: :shame: :eek: :shame: :eek: :shame: :wall:

What the heck! :?

Pyst
10-03-2006, 09:01 AM
It appears the pictures were taken as proof the spider was indeed dead. According to another forum. Personally I see no reason to post pictures of this nature.

-Mike

gumby
10-03-2006, 09:34 AM
I have made trades with people before and they said in the fine print that if I got a dead T in the mail that that was what they wanted me to do in order to show he arrived dead they also wanted it in 24 hours or less of the arrival time. If he sent any text with the pics im sure it would have helped more, and even though im not a big fan of the style of proof it is one way Ive see several dealers work it.
scott

TAG Exotics
10-03-2006, 10:54 AM
I'm a bit confused about what we're seeing and what happened - can you please give some more detail?

Did the person send you this to show you that the spider had passed away? Did it arrive DOA? Was this supposed to be proof that it was dead?


yeaps. sigh...i kinda wish i had spiderlings tho...the breeder said it died after not eating after 3 weeks...sigh...sorry if the pictures offended anyone...:(

anyways, he dint even mate. we went for about 2 months, either the female's refusing or he's scared of the female...sigh...

becca81
10-03-2006, 11:31 AM
yeaps. sigh...i kinda wish i had spiderlings tho...the breeder said it died after not eating after 3 weeks...sigh...sorry if the pictures offended anyone...:(

anyways, he dint even mate. we went for about 2 months, either the female's refusing or he's scared of the female...sigh...

That sucks, sorry. :( Especially with such a slow-growing species - it's rough to see them go without having a chance to mate.

kitty_b
10-03-2006, 02:22 PM
i understand sending pictures to show a spider is dead... but why not have the picture be of the person holding it in such a way that a live spider would never tolerate? why cut off its legs??? :confused:

i'm sorry to hear about the breeding failure. i have a t. blondi on breeding loan here from a board member. he couldn't seem to understand how to mate, and eventually just gave up and stopped eating and stopped trying to build sperm webs.

i'm letting the guy live out his last days here. every couple months he eats a hisser roach, but he's definitely past his prime.

cacoseraph
10-03-2006, 02:26 PM
i understand sending pictures to show a spider is dead... but why not have the picture be of the person holding it in such a way that a live spider would never tolerate? why cut off its legs??? :confused:

i'm sorry to hear about the breeding failure. i have a t. blondi on breeding loan here from a board member. he couldn't seem to understand how to mate, and eventually just gave up and stopped eating and stopped trying to build sperm webs.

i'm letting the guy live out his last days here. every couple months he eats a hisser roach, but he's definitely past his prime.


bugs can be knocked out and posed however the human wants. even the leg cutting off thing isn't that much better... granted an ultimate male isn't going to be doing much regenerating but a sling can stand to be knocked out, have a few legs cut off, and then pop them off at the coxa to prevent leaking to death. but it is better than just having someone tell you, i suppose. if someone were making a stink about something i sent them doa'ing i would want a pic of the abdomen flayed open, or spikes running through the prosoma

Code Monkey
10-03-2006, 08:36 PM
You know, it's never occurred to me to worry about proof for something like this. If I didn't reasonably trust the person I was dealing with, why would I bother?

syndicate
10-03-2006, 08:42 PM
man so what was the point of posting this?

sick4x4
10-03-2006, 11:22 PM
yeah i didn't get it at first, though now i do.. sadly this happens a lot with this species..the not mating part..for some reason females of this species don't take well to the males..... also alot of people have to gradually introduce the males with alot of together time, usually using a setup were they are sharing a breeder set-up...with them divided... what really works is the breeder containers that kritter keepers make...sadly though there are alot of people tring to mate these guys and dont really know what they are doing......which if i were you, i would of done some research and seen if the person i was going to send my t to, had past success with this particular species.....as there are alot that dont...sorry for the lost...next time i would of said it died before it could mate..im sure we would of taken your word for it

dtknow
10-04-2006, 12:05 AM
Couldn't he have sent the body back to you if you wanted confirmation. With its legs intact, it could have made a nice conversation piece mounted somewhere.

Sorry about the loss, I bet its hard to send these males out on loans.

TAG Exotics
10-04-2006, 10:27 AM
sigh...thats why they cost a bomb here. the thing with malaysians is...they dun mind the temperment of a certain sp...if they wanted a black sp...they would not splash out on a G. puchra...they'ed get a H. minax instead...lol...

anyways... have kinda high hopes for this dude...:wall:

Nongkym
10-04-2006, 10:58 PM
I know how you feel, I sent out my ultimate G. pulchra male for breeding and he died in transit. I feel your pain.

Brian F.
10-04-2006, 11:34 PM
Couldn't he have sent the body back to you if you wanted confirmation. With its legs intact, it could have made a nice conversation piece mounted somewhere.

Sorry about the loss, I bet its hard to send these males out on loans.



I was thinking the same thing. I've heard of mailing the DOA back to the sender, but I've never seen this before. Pretty strange.

ShadowBlade
10-05-2006, 12:12 AM
I was thinking the same thing. I've heard of mailing the DOA back to the sender, but I've never seen this before. Pretty strange.

It depends on the price. If I shipped a $400 adult female, and it arrived dead, I'd want some confirmation. But if its a $20 sling, why ask for it back?

TAG Exotics
10-05-2006, 03:24 AM
yeah. but then, the male was worth like a hopeful 50-60 slings? lol...nevermind...getting over it already...:D

ShadowBlade
10-05-2006, 03:26 AM
yeah. but then, the male was worth like a hopeful 50-60 slings?

Yeah, I know what you mean.

southern
10-05-2006, 11:55 AM
That made my stomach turn :(

Pyst
10-05-2006, 11:20 PM
sigh...thats why they cost a bomb here. the thing with malaysians is...they dun mind the temperment of a certain sp...if they wanted a black sp...they would not splash out on a G. puchra...they'ed get a H. minax instead...lol...:

So let me get this right.I fail to see the humor by misrepresentation. You're saying you would try to pass off an H.minax as a G.pulchra ?

HuonHengChai
10-05-2006, 11:28 PM
sigh...thats why they cost a bomb here. the thing with malaysians is...they dun mind the temperment of a certain sp...if they wanted a black sp...they would not splash out on a G. puchra...they'ed get a H. minax instead...lol...

anyways... have kinda high hopes for this dude...:wall:
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Now that's too much.
Not only you are calling Malaysians "Cheapskates", you are generalizing that Malaysian Tarantula Keepers are silly to get a H. Minax to replace G. pulchar.
I have a G. pulchar myself and I never in Hell did think that H. minax could replace it in any possible way. Now that you've done it, you are nothing better then a traitor to the country!
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Scolopendra55
10-06-2006, 12:00 AM
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Now that's too much.
Not only you are calling Malaysians "Cheapskates", you are generalizing that Malaysian Tarantula Keepers are silly to get a H. Minax to replace G. pulchar.
I have a G. pulchar myself and I never in Hell did think that H. minax could replace it in any possible way. Now that you've done it, you are nothing better then a traitor to the country!
:mad: :mad: :mad:

I think he was refering to the common person who just wants a T as a conversation piece, not a hobbyist such as yourself.

V3i HoN6
10-06-2006, 12:13 AM
sigh...thats why they cost a bomb here. the thing with malaysians is...they dun mind the temperment of a certain sp...if they wanted a black sp...they would not splash out on a G. puchra...they'ed get a H. minax instead...lol...

anyways... have kinda high hopes for this dude...:wall:
There's not an accurate and pleasant generalisation of the Malaysian keepers.
I would really like to know from where and how you get this idea from and based on how many Malaysians opinions? I'm a Malaysian that own a juvie G pulchra, but dont feel the superiority over someone who keep an H minax. Instead I'm proud of them who wanted to keep the local species (Malaysia is connected to south of Thailand), too bad im not into burrower. Daily observation at local forums doesnt show any trail either, i hope the conclusion is not drawed based on your imagination.

And what's wrong if someone like H.minax more than a G.pulchra. At least I wouldnt rated some species above another based on you need to "splash out more maneeey" and the temperament. Some may like G pulchra, some H minax, and some both. Unless you at least try to help us to understand why, else it is definitely unnecessary, just like this thread. Previous posting that recieved complaints from many for posting the pictures without suitable descriptions, which being took down by the moderators at last, still wouldn't stop you from posting it again.

Sorry for being sarcastic but you wouldnt want me to make remark of Malaysian like to insist the female holder to scissor his dead male and take pictures, so that he can post in forums? Even i really met one. I mean Im ok if you make the effort to pass the male to the breeder in hope for 50-60 slings, but why not personally claim it back if you cannot trust him. Only 20-30km from his place and he's agree to meet up somewhere nearer for you. no?


I think he was refering to the common person who just wants a T as a conversation piece, not a hobbyist such as yourself.
It's a rather rare hobby here in Malaysia and common person wouldnt really get a tarantula as pet. Not to mention nobody unless some scanty hobbyist (mostly started this 1-2 years) and traders would actually know what's a H.minax and it is black in color. So even if it's refering to the common person, I guess it still doesnt stand to support the accusation.

TAG Exotics
10-06-2006, 02:31 AM
yes in fact i do point to the common person who just wants a T. u can see the patern in a few of the "hobbist" here already i'm sure. beginners who got a lividum or huanini etc etc. i know a few of u all who adores local sp :)

and yes, there's a diffrence with between a person who really likes a local T and a person who wants a cheap T.

again, my fellow malaysians have took me for the wrong...:?

PS:i posted here before the malaysian forum. well...i knew people out here have a better mindset then almost all of you back here. judging from what u peeps post in the local forum and what the peeps post here, its really funny i would say.