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Stefan2209
10-29-2006, 04:00 AM
Hi there,
time for some small update....
Guess many of you know this guys better, than i do...
Phidippus spec.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3549.jpg
Phidippus spec. (possibly P. audax?)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3557.jpg
Phidippus spec. (Boy, are these large, you US - guys and gals should really have told us ignorant europeans how large your jumpers really get, oh dear....)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3573.jpg
Deinopis spec., subadult male, starting to look mean
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3583.jpg
Something new, fresh offspring of giant fishing spider Ancylometes bogotensis
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3597.jpg
And here is "Mom" of afforementioned offspring, already preparing for sac no. 2....
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3600.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3601.jpg
Even more Ancylometes, this time Ancylometes spec. Oyapok, subadult male
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3585.jpg
Ancylometes spec. Oyapok, subadult female
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3588.jpg
Next (soon to be) "Mom", Lycosa (or Hogna??) spec. spain
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3595.jpg
Guess you know these, Phoneutria nigriventer, fresh moulted
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3608.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3609.jpg
Last not least the spiders i´m most interested in at the moment, Ctenidae ssp. ex Kenya, juvenile
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3538.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3545.jpg
More updates soon, still working on the sizes of C. getazi´s, an undescribed Heteropoda species, Macrothele calpeiana and of special interest, two more undetermined Ctenidae ssp. from Kenya, watch out.
Have a nice sunday everybody. :)
Greetings,
Stefan
Steven
10-29-2006, 04:07 AM
Have a nice sunday everybody. :)
after seeing all these beauties,... that won't be a prob :D
very nice stuff as usual Stefan !
Stefan2209
10-29-2006, 04:22 AM
Hi Steven,
thanks!
Crazy times here. Around last year at the time, i would have been willing to spend major bucks to get hold of certain species, but they were just "impossible" to get.
Nowadays, i could use a 48h day and at least 6 arms if i wanted to keep any interesting species offered.... (not to mention, that i´d have to rent a whole storage hall for all that enclosures i´d need....)
Greetings,
Stefan
Steven
10-29-2006, 06:40 AM
what's the legspan of adults of that Ctenidae ssp. ex Kenya ?
haven't seen those before,... they look indeed interesting :}
Stefan2209
10-29-2006, 07:17 AM
what's the legspan of adults of that Ctenidae ssp. ex Kenya ?
haven't seen those before,... they look indeed interesting :}
Hi again,
donno for sure, like so much when it comes to this spiders...
Got introduced here as Palystes (Sparassidae)....
Adults are said to have some 8cm legspan, if i remeber this correct. Quite massive bodies in relation to the legs, though...
Quite interesting behaviour, too, they can climb as Cupiennius and Phoneutria, but some like to dig and seek shelter at the ground, too. Not really aggressive, but for sure no shy spiders.
Right now i´m having some offsprings of two other Ctenidae from Kenya here, too, but they´re still really tiny. Should be interesting, what will develop outta those...
Greetings,
Stefan
I'm always looking forward to your updates Stefan :D
Those Deinopis sp do look mean, where are these from? Damn I wish I could get those Phoneutria sp around here :drool:
Arachno Kid
10-30-2006, 11:58 AM
nice looking spiders ecspecially the jumpers
Outstanding photos as always Stefan!!! And nice spiders, too.
Steven Gielis
11-01-2006, 05:32 AM
Hy Stefan,
Can you tell me the leggspan of that sub-adult male Deinopis. I think mine is to. Buth it's difficult to guess.
CopperInMyVeins
11-02-2006, 03:18 AM
Amazing spiders, I want your collection...
Stefan2209
11-02-2006, 11:08 AM
I'm always looking forward to your updates Stefan :D
Those Deinopis sp do look mean, where are these from? Damn I wish I could get those Phoneutria sp around here :drool:
Hi there,
thanks!
The Deinopis originate from Kenya, the slings hatched here in germany, though they are not "my" offsprings.
With that much Phoneutia ssp.´s available here and that many offsprings around, i´d be surprised, if no Phoneutria offsprings will make it "over the pond" sometime in the future...
@ Arachno Kid
The jumpers came from the US, guess you´ll have it much easier than i had, to get hold of these species. Check the dealers in FL...
@ Steven Gielis
My Deinopis males have some 6cm legspans and some 2cm bodies right now. Don´t know for sure if it´ll be 1 or to 2 molts to adulthood, though...
As always: time will make sure...
@ Copperinmyveins
I wish i had at least 6 arms and 48h days, boy, what i could build up a collection.... :D ;)
Greetings,
Stefan
Michael Jacobi
11-02-2006, 11:14 AM
Great pix, as always, Stefan. The one you labeled as possibly P. audax is definitely that species.
All the best, Michael
Stefan2209
11-12-2006, 04:41 AM
Great pix, as always, Stefan. The one you labeled as possibly P. audax is definitely that species.
All the best, Michael
Hi Mike,
thanks for claring that up! :)
Time for some more....
Finally, the first confirmed male spitters, Scytodes spec. Tanzania, 1,0
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3620.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3631.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3638.jpg
Remember those small "grey dots" in this thread?
HIT ME (http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=69171&page=3&highlight=phoneutria)
Lookey, growing and growing even more....
Phoneutria spec. Paraguay, offspring good 3 months of age
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3643.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3648.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3649.jpg
Baby galore....
Ancylometes bogotensis
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3658.jpg
Cupiennius getazi
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3652.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3656.jpg
Heteropoda spec. "Plüsch" ex Malaysia offspring (damn, what´s "Plüsch" in english?)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3692.jpg
Ctenidae ssp. Kenya, not adult yet
aka "the shy guy"....
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3662.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3663.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3669.jpg
For sure no shy guy: Phoneutria nigriventer juvi
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3731.jpg
Getting interested in my presence...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3720.jpg
Have a nice sunday boys and girls.
Greetings,
Stefan
Steven
11-12-2006, 04:56 AM
always a nice sunday when you post new pictures :D
awsome as usual :drool:
Heteropoda spec. "Plüsch" ex Malaysia
i know what ya mean with "Plüsch",...
correct me if i'm wrong but i think it's "fluffy" ???? :p
i think your Phoneutria nigriventer looks
also kinda fluffy in a cute way :}
Stefan2209
11-12-2006, 05:03 AM
Hi Steven,
yeah, "fluffy" might be it.... :D
Take a look for yourself, the link leads to a pic of the mom...
Switzerland snake board (http://www.schlangenforum.ch/wbb2/thread.php?postid=110877#post110877)
Quite hard to raise, though... :eek:
Take care.
Stefan
michal1991
11-12-2006, 05:49 AM
omg! great spiders! I want to have all of them :D But in Poland it's really hard...
Emanuele
11-17-2006, 05:44 AM
Hi Stefan, great spiders indeed...
I also sent you a private message, you know...we're near (I'm from from Italy)
The Lycosidae sp. from Spain is Lycosa sp. forsure (I study exactly this genus, so I know it a bit). Maybe it could be Lycosa ambigua, but I should have the dead specimen for a correct determination. Could you possibly send me it when it will die naturally? You can put it in a little bottle with ethilic alcool at 70% (please, don't use the pink one used to clean).
Are you sure that it's a Ctenid, that guy from Kenya? The ocular disposition seems similar to Lycosidae (bigger posterior median eyes), even if it has some other caracteristic of Ctenidae (also bigger anterior median eyes..)...
As you said, also the behaviour is an "average" between Lycosidae (dig burrows) and Ctenidae (climb smooth surfaces)
It's really interesting...
Cheers
Ema
Stefan2209
12-11-2006, 09:04 AM
Hi,
time for some more.
First one, a little unusual for me, Macrothele calpeiana sling in it´s home
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3768.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3771.jpg
Undescribed Heteropoda spec. "Plüsch", talk about slooow growing
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3774.jpg
Cupiennius getazi, possibly this gonna be a lil girl sometime soon... The exact opposite of the shown Heteropoda´s, lightning fast growers.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3778.jpg
Ancylometes spec. Oyapok, adult female with sac. The mating of this species was unusually aggressive for this genus and resulted in a dead male.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3782.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3786.jpg
Remember the "Shy Guy"? This is "The Return of the Shy Guy" (under title: Still Shy :D )
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3798.jpg
Lookey, what i´ve got! Yeah, you get it right, TWO sacs at once. Unfortunately No. 2 is dead by now. No. 3 seems to be the real deal again, though, growing and growing from day to day...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3789.jpg
Growing from day to day, too, the offspring of sac No. 1 (same species, note colour differences)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3792.jpg
And the latest addition, the result of a breeding project, Phoneutria reidyi sling, still tiny, but fat already...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT3799.jpg
Greetings,
Stefan
Great spiders and pics, as always Stefan!
That Ancylometes sac is amazing! Glad she dropped a sac since after what she did to the male:eek: .
Lindsey
Stefan2209
12-11-2006, 09:57 AM
Great spiders and pics, as always Stefan!
That Ancylometes sac is amazing! Glad she dropped a sac since after what she did to the male:eek: .
Lindsey
Hi Lindsey,
great to read you again! :)
Yeah, the sac is amazing, the mom ain´t. Just way too small for this species, apparently the sac is well done and has the right size, so it´s just a tad strange sight.
Hope the sac will be fertile, have some ideas why mom got out so small, could proof my idea with just a batch of fresh slings.
By the way: what are those D. albineus doing, are they still around? Here in germany the interest in this species is still increasing and some of the more educated breeders would like to get hold of some specimen for breeding purposes.
Take care!
Greetings,
Stefan
Good to read you too!
I didn't keep any this year (sadly the hard frosts have come through... without spiders to look for, this is my boring season:( ). Actually, I didn't see any this year in their normal spot (a stand of river birch beside a pond at work). In fact, I thought I wasn't going to see any this year until I saw my cat chasing something in the garage:eek: . I locked her out, and went to investigate... sure enough, she had been chasing a D. albineus! Couldn't believe it. On top of that, the albineus had run behind a ladder, and there it almost blundered its' way into the web of a big fat Argiope aurantia. Couldn't believe I found them inside!
The garage is about 50 or so feet from a little side creek of a nearby river. Never seen them in the area before though (I live in coastal Virgnia and work in central VA)! The creek is quite brackish (lots of blue crabs, terrapins, and the occasional dolphin or sea turtle are in the area) and I had always assumed I wouldn't see them hear due to the saltiness.
I will definitely let you know when I start seeing them when it warms up!
Good luck with those sacs!
Lindsey
Stefan2209
05-28-2007, 12:59 PM
Hi there,
time to rewake this thread as i have nothing too special or fancy.
Just some randoms...
Phoneutria boliviensis, adult wc female, Peru
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0621.jpg
Phoneutria reidyi, cb juvenile
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0624.jpg
Ancylometes bogotensis, cb juvenile female
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0626.jpg
Ancylometes bogotensis, cb juvenile male
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0627.jpg
Phoneutria spec. Paraguay, cb juvenile from the 3. sac
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0628.jpg
Phoneutria spec. Paraguay, cb juvenile from the 1. sac
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0546.jpg
Same here
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0552.jpg
Same here
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0554.jpg
Phoneutria nigriventer (Sao Paolo, Brazil morph), adult cb female + sac
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0525.jpg
Ctenidae ssp. Peru, adult wc female
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0535.jpg
Ctenidae ssp. Peru 2, adult wc female + sac
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0543.jpg
Heteropoda spec. Plüsch, Malaysia, cb juvenile
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0635.jpg
That´s all for now, folks.
Greetings,
Stefan
Stefan2209
05-28-2007, 01:13 PM
Got introduced here as Palystes (Sparassidae)....
Adults are said to have some 8cm legspan, if i remeber this correct. Quite massive bodies in relation to the legs, though...
Hi again,
this is, of course, complete bull.
As the specimens are now around some 8 - 9cm (3 - 3,5") legspan and are by far not adult yet.
So i don´t know how big these will get but apparently even bigger than that...
Before i close here´s a picture of a fresh moulted female
Ctenidae ssp. Kenya, cb subadult female
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0492.jpg
Greetings,
Stefan
sammyp
05-28-2007, 01:51 PM
Very nice, Stefan! I especially like the Ctenidae ssp Kenya and the Peru. She has smashing colours on her doesn't she?
Always nice to see updates on your posts :drool:
syndicate
05-28-2007, 09:30 PM
great shots Stefan!thanks for sharing.that
Ctenidae ssp. Kenya is very impressive.any more pictures of
the C.getazi?
Stefan2209
05-30-2007, 01:52 PM
great shots Stefan!thanks for sharing.that
Ctenidae ssp. Kenya is very impressive.any more pictures of
the C.getazi?
Hi there,
thanks, all!
The Kenyan ctenids are by now some of my favourites. Luckily i have of specimens of both sexes here...
Next to that even another species from Kenya, the slings still need some growing, though...
Nope, no actual pics of the C. getazi. Had just been too lazy to snap some to be honest.
I´m not really that much interested in Cupiennius i have to admit, as i find their behaviour rather boring compared to other species from other genera i have.
Had some bad luck with these, too, as my last male died due to old age before i could mate him. Not everything lost, though, as a friend of mine still has some males at his hands.
Well, maybe it´s by time i snap some new pics of my last female. No promise, but at least a possibility.... :D
Greetings,
Stefan
syndicate
05-30-2007, 04:18 PM
hehe no worries friend.
Stefan2209
07-15-2007, 04:47 AM
Hi,
just a small update:
Fresh moulted Heteropoda spec. Plüsch, Malaysia
(juvenile, captive bred)
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0692.jpg
Enjoy....
Greetings,
Stefan
syndicate
07-15-2007, 03:08 PM
very nice!
Blaster
07-16-2007, 06:36 AM
Oh dear, these are so cuuute! Gotta love them.
PM me if You could ship to Poland (late summer and autumn) and where I could find Your offer list... :-)
Keep up the great work, Matthew.
Stefan2209
07-16-2007, 11:39 AM
Oh dear, these are so cuuute! Gotta love them.
PM me if You could ship to Poland (late summer and autumn) and where I could find Your offer list... :-)
Keep up the great work, Matthew.
Hi there,
sorry:
Nor am i a dealer, neither do i know of specimen of this species being actually for sale.
The pictured species is to date undescribed and just two specimen got introduced to Europe over the last two years as far as i´m aware of.
Both adult wc´s are dead by now.
To my best knowledge there are now just 9 specimen existing all in all in Europe. One is pictured here and is the only one i have.
The other 8 are at a buddy of mine who has got the one wc female imported in 2006 and got offspring from her.
The pictured specimen is far from being adult, it´s just measuring some 5cm leg span.
As soon as all specimens are adult breeding will start and then, hopefully, this species should sometime be offered to a bigger audience.
Greetings,
Stefan
Tarantula
07-18-2007, 09:45 AM
Stefan I would like to ask you what species you think Phoneutria spec. Paraguay is? It is a really good looking Phoneutria species I must say! Im gonna get afew for sure! :D
nice pictures!
can you see the Scytodes doing its thing?
Stefan2209
07-18-2007, 12:28 PM
Stefan I would like to ask you what species you think Phoneutria spec. Paraguay is? It is a really good looking Phoneutria species I must say! Im gonna get afew for sure! :D
Hi,
look at this first, please:
Link to Thread about Genus Phoneutria, last post (http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?p=933614#post933614)
After this, this question can´t be answered by now.
Greetings,
Stefan
Stefan2209
07-18-2007, 12:30 PM
nice pictures!
can you see the Scytodes doing its thing?
Hi,
nope.
As all humans eyes mine, too, are not capable to catch motions that are as fast as 600m/s, which is the speed of the hunting technique of Scytodes. ;)
Greetings,
Stefan
Blaster
07-18-2007, 05:18 PM
Thanks for the answer, I was just curious. Still it's a pity that such cuties almost aren't available... But my question was about all Your pets, do You sell any? Take care of Your diamonds, Matthew.
Hi,
nope.
As all humans eyes mine, too, are not capable to catch motions that are as fast as 600m/s, which is the speed of the hunting technique of Scytodes. ;)
Greetings,
Stefan
I know you can't see the back-and-forth motion, but can you tell that it's spit glue onto the prey?
Stefan2209
07-21-2007, 04:45 AM
Fresh moulted Heteropoda spec. Plüsch, Malaysia
(juvenile, captive bred)
Hi,
i got informed from my buddy who has the resnt of the specimens that the species got finally identified as
Heteropoda lunula
Just to let you know.
Greetings,
Stefan
Stefan2209
07-21-2007, 04:49 AM
Thanks for the answer, I was just curious. Still it's a pity that such cuties almost aren't available... But my question was about all Your pets, do You sell any? Take care of Your diamonds, Matthew.
Hi Matthew,
nope, i generally don´t sell.
I´m keeping spiders since 10 years and have in this time exactly sold two specimens. This just because i ran out of space.
I´m actually raising (errr....) "bigger" amounts of different Ancylometes species and am actual thinking about maybe selling some of those when they´ll be subadult.
No definite decision made from my side at this time, though.
I´m generally more interested in trades, though it can be hard to get me in an actual deal as i´m mainly looking for species that are "impossible to get" for the general hobbyist.
Greetings,
Stefan
Stefan2209
07-21-2007, 04:50 AM
I know you can't see the back-and-forth motion, but can you tell that it's spit glue onto the prey?
Hi Pulk,
yeah, that can be seen, as can the effect on the prey item.
Pretty skilled killers.
Greetings,
Stefan
Stefan2209
07-21-2007, 01:15 PM
Stefan I would like to ask you what species you think Phoneutria spec. Paraguay is? It is a really good looking Phoneutria species I must say! Im gonna get afew for sure! :D
Hi,
after taking a thorough read through that revision it should be quite ok to estimate that we´re dealing with the actual P. nigriventer here.
Earlier in the thread shown P. nigriventer Sao Paolo Morph is now P. keyserlingi once again. :D
Easy solution to get hold of "new species"...
Greetings,
Stefan
Stefan2209
08-26-2007, 05:49 AM
Hi once more,
again, another Ancylometes species, not really "new" but at least new to me:
Ancylometes spec. "Oyapok 2", French - Guyana, cb juvenile female
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0743.jpg
Ancylometes spec. "Oyapok 2", French - Guyana, cb juvenile male
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0745.jpg
Have nice sunday everyody.
Greetings,
Stefan
Blaster
08-26-2007, 07:28 AM
Hi there,
The female is superb! Good luck with these cuties. ;)
Stefan2209
09-09-2007, 06:45 AM
Hi there,
The female is superb! Good luck with these cuties. ;)
Hi once more,
cuties these are indeed. :worship:
And because so and because my female just moulted some days ago, here we go again:
Ancylometes spec. "Oyapok 2, French - Guyana", juvenile female, cb
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0757.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0763.jpg
Next, another one of my most beloved species:
Phoneutria reidyi (French - Guyana), juvenile, cb
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0765.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0766.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0768.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0772.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0776.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0777.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0779.jpg
Ever wondered how to take such pics with Phoneutria? Easy: just grab´em, set em up on the table and here you go... :D
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0773.jpg
Have a nice sunday everybody.
Greetings,
Stefan
All awesome spiders and great pics!!!:clap:
I know you can't see the back-and-forth motion, but can you tell that it's spit glue onto the prey?
Scytodes:
To me it looks like the prey is getting caught in a tractor beam or freeze ray! :D
Stefan2209
09-24-2007, 07:59 AM
Olá boys and gals,
Phoneutria keyserlingi (Sao Paolo, Brazil), cb subadult / adult male
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0791.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0793-1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0798.jpg
Ctenidae spp. Kenya, cb adult female
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0780.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/Stefan2209/PICT0783.jpg
See you later...
Greetings,
Stefan
Hi Stefan,
great pics.
But keyserlingi? I thougth it is an invalid name and it's only a colourvariation of P.nigriventer?
Greets
Daniel
Stefan2209
09-24-2007, 10:14 AM
Hi Stefan,
great pics.
But keyserlingi? I thougth it is an invalid name and it's only a colourvariation of P.nigriventer?
Greets
Daniel
Hi Daniel,
better check the lastest genus revision by Martins & Bertani...
...or just wait for one of the next upcoming issues of the "Arachne", there will be an article within, covering this revision.
Greetings,
Stefan
I don't get the Arachne.So do you maybe can tell me what the different is between keyserlingi and nigriventer?
And are other changes in the Phoneutria-Group,too?
Greets
Daniel
Stefan2209
09-24-2007, 10:40 AM
I don't get the Arachne.So do you maybe can tell me what the different is between keyserlingi and nigriventer?
And are other changes in the Phoneutria-Group,too?
Greets
Daniel
Massive ones, 3 three new, respectively revalidated, species.
Check the revision!
Greetings,
Stefan
ok,thx.very intersting articel.
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