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luna
04-22-2007, 04:34 PM
I just got back from Whiteplains with 4 new spiders from Tommyís table. They look awesome.

The only problem is I am not sure about the scientific name of two of them: Blue Bloom Birdeater & Mexican Beauty. I didnít want to monopolize his time and figured the names should be obvious if I do a search but after a bit of looking around, Iím really not sure who I brought home. I hate common names! Do you think I have a Pamphobeteus nigricolor & maybe a Brachypelma boehmei?

I know some of you were there looking at the same spiders throughout the dayÖ I think I recognized a few faces but felt awkward walking up and calling you by your screen name.

Thanks for your help, Cheri

P. Novak
04-22-2007, 04:36 PM
I just got back from Whiteplains with 4 new spiders from Tommyís table. They look awesome.

The only problem is I am not sure about the scientific name of two of them: Blue Bloom Birdeater & Mexican Beauty. I didnít want to monopolize his time and figured the names should be obvious if I do a search but after a bit of looking around, Iím really not sure who I brought home. I hate common names! Do you think I have a Pamphobeteus nigricolor & maybe a Brachypelma boehmei?

I know some of you were there looking at the same spiders throughout the dayÖ I think I recognized a few faces but felt awkward walking up and calling you by your screen name.

Thanks for your help, Cheri

Those common names seem like they would match the Sci. ones. Do you mind getting some pics?

luna
04-22-2007, 04:50 PM
I can take them with no problem, especially since they are in the containers I bought them in. But me posting pictures could take forever... I'll see what I can do...

Lorgakor
04-22-2007, 04:51 PM
I've also heard Mexican Beauty in reference to A. bicoloratum.

Arachnokid 93
04-22-2007, 04:58 PM
Well I herd the mexican beauty was Brachypelma baumgarteni. I dont know about the other one.

P. Novak
04-22-2007, 04:59 PM
I can take them with no problem, especially since they are in the containers I bought them in. But me posting pictures could take forever... I'll see what I can do...

Use the codes from imageshack.us or photobucket.com

luna
04-22-2007, 05:54 PM
I am attemping the picture thing. I think I have them uploaded... where, I do not know.

ChrisNCT
04-22-2007, 05:59 PM
Okay..I am very familiar with the ones at his table.

The Mexican Beauty is the Brachypelma boehmei
The Blue Bloom Birdeater is the Pamphobetus nigricolor

spider_fan
04-22-2007, 06:12 PM
I was almost positive that Mexican beauty was the common name for B. klassi, while B. boehmei is the mexican fireleg.

luna
04-22-2007, 06:27 PM
Thank you so much... I am getting really frustrated with the picture thing... My pictures look good to me but I can't get them on the site.

I don't have time to put them on flickr tonight...really need to get back to work after a whole day of spider time. Someday I will figure out pictures here and then you will all have to endure my thousands of photos.

You guys have been a wonderful help!

P. Novak
04-22-2007, 06:31 PM
Thank you so much... I am getting really frustrated with the picture thing... My pictures look good to me but I can't get them on the site.

I don't have time to put them on flickr tonight...really need to get back to work after a whole day of spider time. Someday I will figure out pictures here and then you will all have to endure my thousands of photos.

You guys have been a wonderful help!



One last suggestion, how about emailing them to me.. I can post them here for you. Email: paulnovak001@yahoo.com

ChrisNCT
04-22-2007, 06:38 PM
I was almost positive that Mexican beauty was the common name for B. klassi, while B. boehmei is the mexican fireleg.

It is but this is not the case....I saw the t's that were mentioned above and this is exactly one reason that the hobby uses scientific names instead of names given by dealers as they can change from person to person.

luna
04-22-2007, 06:52 PM
I do trust Chris' familiarity with Tommy's table but I just managed to get the pictures in my profile if you want to see the spiders. After taking a few dozen pictures I noticed a tiny "p.nig" on the Blue Bloom's lid confirming that one. Its the brachypelma that I was real confussed about. I haven't seen that common name too often and heard a few common ones for B. boehmei.

But now I'm happy with their id!

P. Novak
04-22-2007, 07:11 PM
Here are Lunas pics as well..

Blue Bloom Birdeater
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/PaulNovak/Random/Blue_Bloom_Birdeater_4.jpg

Mexican Beauty
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/PaulNovak/Random/Mexican_beatuy_1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/PaulNovak/Random/Mexican_beatuy_2.jpg


It is definately a B.boehmei and P.nigricolor

luna
04-22-2007, 07:22 PM
Thanks for posting my pictures!!!

P. Novak
04-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Thanks for posting my pictures!!!

No problem, just helping out. You should get a photobucket account. Comes in handy. Just sign up for the free one and then from there its as easy as copy and paste.

moose35
04-22-2007, 11:04 PM
hi luna.. i saw you buying those today. ChrisNCT is 100% right with the id's he gave you. i have no clue why tommy uses common names.but he's done it like that for the last 10 or so years i've known him.
next time just ask him the names he would have no problem writing them down for you.
tom

Hedorah99
04-23-2007, 08:19 AM
hi luna.. i saw you buying those today. ChrisNCT is 100% right with the id's he gave you. i have no clue why tommy uses common names.but he's done it like that for the last 10 or so years i've known him.
next time just ask him the names he would have no problem writing them down for you.
tom

He's pretty much said the only people that want scientific names are the people from this website. The rest of the people he sells to at shows wouldn't know what the hell Brachypelma boehmi was. I just feel bad because I keep asking his wife what the latin names for everything is.

moose35
04-23-2007, 02:15 PM
tommy's wife is cool as hell also. she is the 1 who knows the prices.hehe

MindUtopia
04-23-2007, 05:52 PM
To my knowledge what Tommy sells as Mexican Beauty is B. baumgarteni...as I bought one a couple years ago and it's definitely not B. boehmei.

luna
04-23-2007, 07:57 PM
Oh no... so my confusion continues? I just won't slap a permanent name tag on until I can ask at the next show I go to... next time I will ask the name before I leave. Maybe now I will have to go to Hamburg.

MRL
04-24-2007, 11:43 AM
B. boehmei is what Tommy has as Mexican Beauty. I asked this past Sunday since I thought it might be B. baumgarteni myself.

MindUtopia
04-24-2007, 12:48 PM
B. boehmei is what Tommy has as Mexican Beauty. I asked this past Sunday since I thought it might be B. baumgarteni myself.

Huh, I asked too like last year and he said B. baumgarteni. Jodi bought one too, so perhaps she knows. Of course, who knows with common names, it may change from year to year based on what he feels like calling it. I just know that the T that I got from him back then with that name isn't B. boehmei. But if you just got it this past weekend and that's what he says it is, that's probably what it is. And your pic certainly looks like a boehmei. It's definitely different than mine which has a black carapace with orange more around the edges.

Kagekumo
04-24-2007, 01:29 PM
Congrats on the T's! B. boehmei is one of my favorites. They like to sit where you can see them . Great display T :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thoth
04-24-2007, 05:55 PM
Next time don't be embarassed to ask the scientific names. Last time I was at the whiteplains show, I probably bugged Tommy and Frank for good 20 minutes asking scientific names (good thing I bought stuff or they probably would have beat me up otherwise :) )