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Poecilotheria sp. - Carapace indetification
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Originally posted by jcohen9999
Phalagorn
Exactly what I was curious about...and nice list indeed.
Already have your original picture printed out in color and posted to the wall.
Thanks,
Jeff
It´s very difficult to see in your picture what it is? your Pokies looks real small, try agin when they have grown up a bit, but to be 100% sure of an Poecilotheria species you have to take a look on the ventral/underside pattern under the legs.Originally posted by Bearskin10
Ok Phalagorn, I have 2 ids for ya. the first one I thought I knew what it was and am now unsure of after your picture and the second I have been unsure of since I got it? Thanks, Greg
Yep, first thing I did when Jcohen posted his question was begin combing through pictures. On juveniles it didn't appear to be of any reliable accuracy. However, once they became adult sized, the patterns held even if they weren't always *that* clear cut.Originally posted by Phalagorn
your Pokies looks real small, try agin when they have grown up a bit
Well, according to the chart, the best match is the formosa/regalis/striata grouping. Of course, there isn't much difference between that grouping and the fasciata/smithi/ornata/etc. grouping with the only distinguishing feature being the thickness of the dark pigmentation surrounding the pattern.Originally posted by jcohen9999
Here is a 4+" specimen. Based on this chart, which grouping do you think this is from?
That's simple. Only P. regalis has the distinctive "belly band" on the anterior ventral surface of the abdomen. This "beige"/"greyish-pink"/"greyish-white" band would be about 1/2" wide in a 6" specimen. That's all you need to check, but P. regalis also has thicker black bands on the venter of the femur of both Leg I and Leg IV. P. fasciata has thin dark bands on the underside of the femur, especially on Leg IV.Originally posted by esmoot
Yo Chip or others. Could you tell me is there anything else I should be looking for to be sure my fasciata is not a regalis. I never really cared to look before but now that she is 6" I need to know.
Eric
Could you post 2 picyures of your Poecilotheria sp. both dorsal and ventral-side? (the whole body of your specimen, please)Originally posted by jcohen9999
I guess I'm gonna have to get a shot of the underside because I have this as an P ornata...
Phalagorn,Originally posted by Phalagorn
Poecilotheria sp. - Carapace indetification
I can delete hanumavilasum from the carapace-id, and waith for publish. I think that hanumavilasum is synonymous with kirki/peterkirki/hillyardi, I have lots of pictures of these species on my computer and they all look the same, both the dorsal and ventral-side of the newfound species.Originally posted by SpiderShoppe
Phalagorn,
Very nice work on the chart - it is very interesting. However, including a species that has not been published yet ("hanumavilasum") is premature. It is Mr. Smith's own fault by making the proposed name public prior to publication, but the rest of us should avoid using it until it is officially published (which is supposedly going to be in the next BTS journal).