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Arachnosquire
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hi guys.. is was wondering if it would be ok to put hissers and dubias in one enclosure?? all of them are breeders by the way
The hisses will kill off the dubias without a doubt. Hissers are very territorial and spend ALOT of time charging pushing hissing and ramming each other. If you've ever owned some you will hear them fighting all the time. Especially the males. Dubias are the opposite. They live communally.hi guys.. is was wondering if it would be ok to put hissers and dubias in one enclosure?? all of them are breeders by the way
How do you know that?The hisses will kill off the dubias without a doubt. Bad idea.
you can even just cut a piece of cardboard and make yourself a partition. just make sure its goes all the way to the top. the best way i can think of doing this is use some hot glue (or duct tape) and glue a partition in the middle of the tank, then hot glue a second partition to the lid so that when it opens and closes it kinda works like scissors where the two partitions slide past each other ensuring the top and bottom are closed off.wow.. thats really detaild.. just the right answer.. ill be separating them 2nite as soon as i get home... thanks a lot twentyeggs!!
I agree with this statement, from everything I've experienced most species will coexist in the shorter term with no obvious problems but in the long run one will 'win'. If I dumped the 7 species I keep all together, my bet would be that in a year or two there would be nothing left but the Lobsters, those things just seem super competitive (next in line would be E. distante). My lobster and lateralis bins are next to each other and I've found that the lobsters will colonize and breed in with the lateralis while the individual lat's seem to do fine with the lobsters but don't proliferate there. Could be the simple reason of the lat's ooths being eaten while the Lobsters having 'live birth' doesn't give the lat's that opportunity.Generally speaking, one species tends to gradually become the dominant species and the other will end up dying off.
This is so true. I put food in my tubs and before I can even close the lid they stampede onto it and then there is no visible food or floor left to the eye.I've never seen healthy dubia refuse fresh food(w/ exceptions & even those exceptions disappear after the other stuff is eaten)...usually they swarm over it like a drunken Thanksgiving feast.
But aren't those outdoor colonies? Have they established sustaining populations in houses? Even here I can find native species outside but they have no interest in my house...Bill, you're in a good spot to impede infestation from the tropicals but lateralis, in particular, have already established themselves in pockets of CA, AZ & TX(?). I'd be more cautious if I lived in one of those sun drenched locales.
dude!! i mean.. each to their own and all the power to you, but you allow your roaches to escape and live in your house? i couldn't do that... my fiance would be PISSED! if she ever caught a roach in the bed, im pretty sure she would be the one threat posing at me instead of my tarantulas!!I agree with this statement, from everything I've experienced most species will coexist in the shorter term with no obvious problems but in the long run one will 'win'. If I dumped the 7 species I keep all together, my bet would be that in a year or two there would be nothing left but the Lobsters, those things just seem super competitive (next in line would be E. distante). My lobster and lateralis bins are next to each other and I've found that the lobsters will colonize and breed in with the lateralis while the individual lat's seem to do fine with the lobsters but don't proliferate there. Could be the simple reason of the lat's ooths being eaten while the Lobsters having 'live birth' doesn't give the lat's that opportunity.
I very typically find random 'strays' of other species mixed in with pretty much all my colonies and have yet to witness any inter-species aggression. You'd think the seemingly aggressive hisser males would be an issue but they appear to be concerned only with other hisser males and don't bother with anything else. That colony tends to be pretty crowded though so maybe they're just too busy amongst themselves to bother. My hisser and dubia bins have been next to each other for years so I always find crossovers in both directions but have never noticed any signs of actual cross colonization. Could be whichever one has 'critical mass' ends up dominant...
Just a note for those concerned about household infestation. I'm pretty 'loose' about containment (no lids on anything, just vasilene around the bin rims, eggcrate/oakbark slabs stacked almost to the top), so I occasionally get individual strays around the house. I have yet to find any species that has managed to breed/proliferate outside of the bins (once an individual female hisser spit out a brood under my sewing machine but she was likely already loaded up when she escaped). Considering how many I find in the wrong bin it seems I must get a quite a few escapees but they seem to prefer life in the bins so either find their way back home or to a neighbors bin rather than wander the the household. I'm in New England so winters are very dry but summer conditions can be quite humid/tropical and even then have never had an issue. I think most of the 'hobby species' are somehow not well suited to household living and require more specific conditions to proliferate.
Bill
But aren't those outdoor colonies? Have they established sustaining populations in houses? Even here I can find native species outside but they have no interest in my house...
I guess I was a bit vague, didn't mean to give the impression that I allow roaches to be running all over my house, maybe once in a month or two I'll flip on a light and catch one on the bathroom floor or something.dude!! i mean.. each to their own and all the power to you, but you allow your roaches to escape and live in your house? i couldn't do that...
I'm getting too old for that, I meet someone now I'm pretty quick to find out if the critters, guns and the occasional motorcycle part are good to be in the house. The girl I lived with for many years was ok with the bugs, birds and geckos, etc. as was my more recently former one. Ya just have to pick someone who embraces your lifestyle or... guess I dunno what 'or', I just don't go there.my fiance would be PISSED! if she ever caught a roach in the bed, im pretty sure she would be the one threat posing at me instead of my tarantulas!!
Used to use screens but found they really don't do much, short of being hermetically sealed in the roachies seem to find a way out anyway. Can't tell you how many times I've seem them upside down on the screens, even with 3" of bugstop on the bins. I probably tend to stack the interior stuff to high, particularly when the population gets dense and I just keep adding on. I try to control the numbers with temperature and food but it's very difficult to keep stable numbers, sometimes I think it's just cyclical and defies any of my attempts at regulation.im just curious as to why? is it for keeping the smell down? dubia roaches don' t generally smell but old egg crates do and i know fresh air drastically keeps the odors down because moisture can't get trapped, but i use screens!