OH no. Did i just kill my scorpion?

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I was going around cleaning up the G.grandidieri tank. And I lifted up a bark to find a exoskeleton. I picked it up with some tongs and it had a big thing on it. Once i picked it up, I realised it was a STILL MOLTING SCORPION. CRAP! So i put it back where it was, and misted a little around the area.

I hope I didnt kill it. it was still moving once I picked it up, I just hope I didnt ruin everything and hurt the little guy. So what can I do.

*edit* well, now hes being eaten by a tank mate. God dammit.
 
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i'm not an experienced scorp guy or anything but even i know that: leave it alone!

good luck, not much you can do at this point but wait and worry ;)
 
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Like I said, he is currently being eaten by a fellow tank mate, his tank mate will not let go. He's already dead now. Sucks. :(
(edit, it really sucks cause he looks like he continued molting since I put him back, but his fat ass tank mate ate him. And i JUST fed them crickets hours ago)
*editedit* I can't help but blame myself. feels bad.
 
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i think you put that in at the same time i posted, i didn't see it.

that sucks dude, sorry to hear :(
 
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InfestedGoat said:
I was going around cleaning up the G.grandideri tank. And I lifted up a bark to find a exoskeleton. I picked it up with some tongs and it had a big thing on it. Once i picked it up, I realised it was a STILL MOLTING SCORPION. CRAP! So i put it back where it was, and misted a little around the area.

I hope I didnt kill it. it was still moving once I picked it up, I just hope I didnt ruin everything and hurt the little guy. So what can I do.

*edit* well, now hes being eaten by a tank mate. God dammit.
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Well, at least you now know that you should be more careful.:) I'm really sorry that you lost it!
 
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That does suck indeed. How many are in the tank? Even communal scorps find tank mates to tasty to pass up. I worry about that everyday since my 2 female emps both show signs of pre-molt, and my adult male is in the same enclosure. Im hoping the big guy dont decide that they would make better meals than mamas.......
 
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2-3 left in the tank. I started with 5. Makes me feel like G.grandidieri isn't the most communal scorp when young. I keep them very well fed.
 
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InfestedGoat said:
2-3 left in the tank. I started with 5. Makes me feel like G.grandidieri isn't the most communal scorp when young. I keep them very well fed.
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As you probably know, it is not recommended to keep young scorpions together, especially during a molt.
 
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2nscorpx said:
As you probably know, it is not recommended to keep young scorpions together, especially during a molt.
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Wrong. Tityus stigmurus and serralatus are completely communal throughout their life cycles. I've even kept C. gracilis and sculpts together well fed with zero instances of cannibalism, even during molts.
 
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Even so, most scorpions (even communal ones) tend to molting cannibalism. So there is always an elevated risk when raising them in groups.

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gromgrom said:
Wrong. Tityus stigmurus and serralatus are completely communal throughout their life cycles. I've even kept C. gracilis and sculpts together well fed with zero instances of cannibalism, even during molts.
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I wouldn't say wrong so definitively. I know of some cannibalism from species that were supposed to be communal at any life stage, including T. serrulatus and T. stigmurus...and it is not wrong when I say 'it is not recommended' because it is not!:)
 
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2nscorpx said:
I wouldn't say wrong so definitively. I know of some cannibalism from species that were supposed to be communal at any life stage, including T. serrulatus and T. stigmurus...and it is not wrong when I say 'it is not recommended' because it is not!:)
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So you're saying you've kept T. stigmurus and serralatus and starved them to see this as I have? Interesting that your specimens did so, because mine did not.
 
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Yeah, I know it isn't recommended, but I wanted to try with this species. I have many different communal projects going, and this is the only tank that is having cannibal issues. I might seperate the ones who are left.

*edit* okay. Just separated the remaining ones, I have 3 left. Which means I lost another one earlier to cannibalism as well. So anyone else thinking of a Grosphus grandidieri communal set up, keep them separated until adult hood.
 
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Everyone with significant genitalia knows that these are not to be kept communally....;)

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Michiel said:
Everyone with significant genitalia knows that these are not to be kept communally....;)

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Are they communal as adults? I was told they would do fine communally if well fed.
 
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Hi,

Yes, as adults (males at instar 7, females at 7 or even 8) they can be kept in small groups. This is what I personally experienced when I kept these years ago.....but you can never rule out cannibalism......Molting cagemates can be turned into fast food rapidly. When? When it suits the other cagemate to eat the molting one.....
 
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gromgrom said:
So you're saying you've kept T. stigmurus and serralatus and starved them to see this as I have? Interesting that your specimens did so, because mine did not.
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No, these were reports from some other keepers in Europe, even some cannibalism in other species like C. nitidus that were supposed to be communal at any life stage. I even remember Brian Sherrill saying that he had some cannibalism in juvenile Tityus serrulatus. I meant more, sorry, that G. grandidieri is not necessarily communal as juveniles.;)
 
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Michiel said:
but you can never rule out cannibalism......
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I was reminded of this today by a friend.

I however, have had no issues with the scorpions I listed, and stand by my statement that I've lost ziltch, even when denying them food. So it seems mine are just good specimens :)
 
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