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I was browsing the internet when I came across thes species P.Bara/Subfusca. I just wanted to know whether the P.Bara is a different specie to the P.Subfusca or are they the same specie?
I don't see much room for debate, honestly. Platnick's World Spider Catalog is a pretty authoritative source. Poecilotheria bara is a junior synonym of Poecilotheria subfusca. It's certain sellers that continue to use P. bara erroneously, not arachnologists.I believe them to be the same……I’m sure some people might debate that but that’s my thought
http://research.amnh.org/iz/spiders/catalog/THERAPHOSIDAE.html
Yes, they are the same. Also, for future reference, "species" is the singular form of the word as well as the plural. "Specie" is a type of coin or hard money. So you would say "this is a species" as well as "these are species".So then it means that P.Subfusca IS the same specie as P.Bara.
Also for future reference...species shouldn't be capitalized, only genus.Yes, they are the same. Also, for future reference, "species" is the singular form of the word as well as the plural. "Specie" is a type of coin or hard money. So you would say "this is a species" as well as "these are species".
Perhaps Benelux is more progressive In Czech Rep. and Germany, it's quite common to see "P.bara".I'm from mainland europe and I haven't seen P. bara come up as a name in a long time so I have to disagree on that one Poec54 I see that name come up more often on the american boards actually.
I agree with the rest of your post though
Agree. I would be surprised if there were any "pure" highland and lowland anymore.I'd have a hard time believing that the HL and LL haven't been mixed for years already.
later, Tom
If there still are, there probably won't be long term. A large part of it is unintentional, as some of them have been mislabeled when sold and then those crosses circulate in the hobby and are bred. I would think through selective breeding of these mixed individuals in the future (pairing darker ones with other darker ones) that some of (most of?) that could eventually be reversed. But they'll still be a number of 50/50 crosses out there adding to the gene pool.Agree. I would be surprised if there were any "pure" highland and lowland anymore.
And that situation has probably led some people to use whatever is available, even if it's a male of the other form.I've got a definite highland female, but no males that I have seen have even come close to as dark as she is, so guessing I won't see many down here in SA
I've been told the they split them into two different species, that the P. subfusca is highland, and P. Bara is lowland...I was browsing the internet when I came across thes species P.Bara/Subfusca. I just wanted to know whether the P.Bara is a different specie to the P.Subfusca or are they the same specie?
Did the person who told you this have any recent papers to back his statement up?I've been told the they split them into two different species, that the P. subfusca is highland, and P. Bara is lowland...
See post #5 in this thread.I've been told the they split them into two different species, that the P. subfusca is highland, and P. Bara is lowland...