Balsasensi, Ornatus, Suffusus or Vittatus?

So, once again, I'm trying to identify my scorpion.

First of all, please keep the post clean. I'm trying to keep the main subject at the center of the discussion.

DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT ITS MAIMED STINGER

Please vote in the poll only once you are done checking the whole information.

So I bought a scorpion from Chapala Lake, Jalisco, Mexico.

I have done a lot of research, but I still can't figure out which one it is.

So far, I've concluded it would be one of the next 4 species: Centruroides Balsasensi, Centruroides Ornatus, Centruroides Suffusus or Centruroides Vittatus.

I had a scorpion from the same place that, I believe, was a male. It was a bit different, it had 2 little "antennas" under its belly that looked like extra legs.

This is my scorpion. This one should be a female, it was carrying babies.

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd....6_10154470524585085_1306384869988299501_n.jpg

The Babies.
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I remember reading about a specie that had a triangular shape on its head and that was a was to ID it, but I cannot find which scorpion that was anymore. Here, it seems to have that shape.
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This is the most pertinent infotmation I have.

Centruroides Suffusus, Can be found in Durango, 8 hours from the place where it was purchased.5th part of the tail is darker, "Yellow to tan with two broad, dark longitudinal stripes on the upper side of the abdomen. Slender pincers and a long, slender tail are characteristic. The pigment on the carapace is similar to that of Centruroides vittatus, but is suffuse (hence the name) toward the lateral margins." http://museum2.utep.edu/chih/theland/animals/invertebrates/scorpions/centruroidessuffusus.htm

Centruroides Ornatus Michoacan/Nayarit, 3 hours distance, http://www.scorpionworlds.fr/pages/...rx-1890/centruroides-ornatus-pocock-1902.html

Centruroides Balsasensis, Mexico D.F./Michoacan 3-6hours distance , 5th part of the tail darker, http://www.scorpionworlds.fr/pages/...truroides-balsasensis-ponce-francke-2004.html

Centruroides Vittatus, Zacatecas 4h, Chihuahua 15h,Coahuila 12h, Nuevo Leon 10h, Tamaulipas 9h. 5th part of the tail is darker, http://bugguide.net/node/view/16668

http://www.ntnu.no/ub/scorpion-files/gallery.php

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Also, if you guys feel like explain your choice, that would be nice and helpful!

By the way

Whoever says it's another kind, please name it.

haha it seems you got trolled quite badly! haha!

Because people aren't taking time to comment their vote at all? I added that after they voted.

It's definitely NOT vittatus, I can tell you that much.

Sorry, thought someone voted 100% other species and didnt say which just to troll!

Best of luck ID ing the scorpion

Patcho said:

It's definitely NOT vittatus, I can tell you that much.

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I totally agree. I'd say ornatus.

And what makes it NOT vittatus?

wtf ?!?!
honestly, this sort of trying to get an ID is stupid... you can also use a mentalist with a crystal ball...fffff sorry man. Make propor pix of the relevant parts of the Body, and than someone can MAYBE try to ID them.

I'm trying to take the best pictures I can. What do you wanna see from my scorpion?

bad pic, try a pic that is actually in focus...

cmon guys...so pickyyyyy.......just tell me what you wanna see!

Picky! ... You've already been given a link to a centruroides key. That key will use descriptive anatomical terms you probably haven't heard before.......therefore.
You research those terms to find out what parts of the scorpion are being discussed.
You locate those anatomical features on the scorpion and take high definition macro pictures.....Only then will someone be able to give to a positive ID.

Picky!......the picture you have uploaded for identification purposes is a joke!

Olsin said:

Picky! ... You've already been given a link to a centruroides key. That key will use descriptive anatomical terms you probably haven't heard before.......therefore.
You research those terms to find out what parts of the scorpion are being discussed.
You locate those anatomical features on the scorpion and take high definition macro pictures.....Only then will someone be able to give to a positive ID.

Picky!......the picture you have uploaded for identification purposes is a joke!

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Oh Olsin, you've no idea how much I love you.

Also, I'd like to ask if you've found it since it "somehow got out" of its enclosure.

This thread is pretty meaningless if we're identifying a scorpion that has disappeared and not been found again.

Did you manage to recover the scorpion eunuch?

well specifically, ety said that it was never lost, it crammed itself into a split in one of the pieces of bark in it's enclosure. apparently.

Once again, people will slowly start making this thread lose its purpose....

@ety32

sorry for your loss . and wish i could help id too but it's impossible to id it with the photos you posted.
There are some experts more than you think on this forum but seriously ppl cant id that just by looking at those pics..
its not like e.g) id androctonus bicolor and mauritanicus. Centruroides sp are way more difficult to id than most of others .

Latest pictures with some omd ones there.. If that helps anyone...
http://bugguide.net/bgimage/user/100927