Colombian Pamphobeteus Information

Pitter · Dec 25, 2014

I posted an image of what is probably either insignis or nigricolor (guessing it's the latter) on the photo ID page. There doesn't seem to be much information on either one of them on the net. Where can I find more detailed information including distribution in Colombia?

Sana · Dec 25, 2014

Best of luck with that. The most detailed information I've found on the genus and the differences between the species within is at this website.

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2008/f/zt01826p058.pdf

I'm looking for the same information. This is my favorite genus and I am always trying to learn more about them. I'm going to enjoy following this thread. Hopefully someone out there has more information than I do.

kongekilde · Dec 25, 2014

U have P.cf. insignis or p. insignis (the true one) but the true one is werry rare and comes at werry hige price
Nigricolor sp u have the true P.nigricolor (werry rare) or sp. Nigricolor (comes in different forms) light/dark forms and the hobby forms
Witch have been breed in to the hobby over many generations and Are not a clean bloodline but generations off crosse breed

Now i havent seen the pic u have posted but i must say the chance for u having other than sp Nigricolor is slim and if u got true clean line on Any off
the 2 u have got your selv a rare awsome T

cold blood · Dec 25, 2014

kongekilde said:
U have P.cf. insignis or p. insignis (the true one) but the true one is werry rare and comes at werry hige price ��
Nigricolor sp u have the true P.nigricolor (werry rare) or sp. Nigricolor (comes in different forms) light/dark forms and the hobby forms
Witch have been breed in to the hobby over many generations and Are not a clean bloodline but generations off crosse breed
Now i havent seen the pic u have posted but i must say the chance for u having other than sp Nigricolor is slim and if u got true clean line on

Op lives IN Columbia....I'd bet they aren't hobby t's. The chances of us having the real deal may be slim, but I bet its the opposite for him.

kongekilde · Dec 25, 2014

Yep i founde out when tjekking his profile

Allso founde the pic that Was posted

Sana · Dec 25, 2014

I keep hoping that someone will offer a source of information on these guys. I heard a comment at one point however that this was a genus like Avicularia with many of the species poorly described and that it was likely to be a while before that changed.

Pitter · Dec 25, 2014

Yes sorry guys I should have included in my post that I live in Colombia and my photos are of animals I've found on my property rather than leaving it to you to go to my profile. I've posted photos of two different individuals of male blue/black either P. insignis or P. nigricolor (???) and one photo of the light brown one which according to kongekilde may be from a different genus altogether. One thing I found curious in the little information I did come across is that the temperature recommendation for both species is like 75-80 degrees F. Here where I've found them the high temperature mid day is around 65F and much cooler at night. Thank you Sana for that link.

Sana · Dec 25, 2014

Would you be willing to share more about the area that you live in? It's hard to figure out the specifics for less described species. I was earlier today having a discussion regarding humidity specifically with another member and figured that now was a good time to ask. What is the average humidity where you live?

Poec54 · Dec 25, 2014

Sana said:
Best of luck with that. The most detailed information I've found on the genus and the differences between the species within is at this website.

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2008/f/zt01826p058.pdf

I'm looking for the same information. This is my favorite genus and I am always trying to learn more about them. I'm going to enjoy following this thread. Hopefully someone out there has more information than I do.

You'll also like Phormictopus, very similar to Pamphobeteus, except they're Caribbean. Many adult females of the two genera are similar, and both have brightly colored adult males.

Sana · Dec 25, 2014

Poec54 said:
You'll also like Phormictopus, very similar to Pamphobeteus, except they're Caribbean. Many adult females of the two genera are similar, and both have brightly colored adult males.

As I've gotten more involved in the hobby, I've come across them and you're absolutely right. They are beautiful! Definitely a genus that has been added to my ever growing wish list.

kongekilde · Dec 26, 2014

I realy love to see the females off the sp u posted
But they Will be hader to finde than the males
As the males u founde was out looking for females witch ar hiding in there borrows

I Hope to see and here mutch more from u Pitter

Philth · Dec 29, 2014

I'd like to see a female of the male that wasn't a Pamphobeteus that you posted. And that other brown one as well, that I commented looked like Agnostopelma. Maybe some more habitat shots while your at it lol. Come on man, you're living in a dream world for most of us over there! Share some more stuff from your yard and neighborhood!

Later, Tom

Pitter · Dec 30, 2014

Thanks guys for your interest and ID help. I live on what they call a "finca" (country property) here. My place and my two neighbor's places have essentially been cut out of cloud forest at 2100m located on the eastern slope of the western cordillera above the city of Cali in Valle de Cauca department. The humidity is very high, usually 90% or more. Daytime temperature is around 65 degrees and can get into the fifties at night. Logically the animals dwell in the surrounding forest but the few times I see them they are in open areas like my yard or sometimes just walking around the base of my house. This a website that is my "scrap book" collection of nature subjects I've photographed in Colombia. The majority were taken on or close to my property. I try to get things identified to genus and species wherever I can.

http://colombianature.smugmug.com/

Sana · Dec 30, 2014

Wow! I love your pictures! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I dream about seeing places like this someday when I am in a place in my life to be able to travel. My pamphobeteus will certainly thank you as well for the information that will improve my ability to give it the most natural habitat possible.

Wadew · Dec 31, 2014

Very nice, Thank you. You are blessed to live among such landscape! The Spectacle parrotlets are so cute.

-Wade

Pitter · Dec 31, 2014

Thank you spider friends. I'll keep posting them as I find them.

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