L.violaceopes sexing

Mako16 · Jul 21, 2015

Hey guys ..

Everywhere I look about sexing this sp. says ''it's one of the easiest T's to sex ventral'' but is it ? ..

I have two freshly molted 5 inch L.violaceopes .. and I have the problem with sexing one of them as the skin was totally demolished .
I have posted the pictures of my first one in the tarantula sexing category, and most of them were telling me it's a 100% SHE !

Here are the pics once again of the violaceopes nr.1 , that i'm not sure about :

And today .. my violaceopes nr.2 molted .. here are the pics ..

As you can see.. the 2nd one is a confirmed female! But what about the first one? Don't they look different ? especially if looking ventral ..

Please let me know , what do you think .. as I have sold the violaceopes nr.1 as a female , and I would like to apologize to the buyer , if she is not a she ..

Arachnomaniac19 · Jul 21, 2015

Looks male to me. :/

lalberts9310 · Jul 21, 2015

It does kinda look different than the other one, but I don't see anything that tells me male, I also don't see an obvious vent, but if I had to take a guess it would still be female...

Austin S. · Jul 21, 2015

Still thinking male on that one... Probably one of the toughest ventrals out there, but I'm still sticking with it.

lal - Want to place a bet chica? lol If you lived closer, I'd be all game haha.

lalberts9310 · Jul 21, 2015

Austin S. said:
Still thinking male on that one... Probably one of the toughest ventrals out there, but I'm still sticking with it.

lal - Want to place a bet chica? lol If you lived closer, I'd be all game haha.

This one is pretty tough, maybe it's a shemale? Lol.. I'm quite unsure after seeing the vent of the other specimen, so I could be wrong hehe

Austin S. · Jul 21, 2015

Mako, is the one in question freshly molted? Or can we expect a molt any time soon?

Oh, just saw you sold it as female. So I think I just answered my own Q.

lalberts9310 · Jul 21, 2015

Austin S. said:
Mako, is the one in question freshly molted? Or can we expect a molt any time soon?

Oh, just saw you sold it as female. So I think I just answered my own Q.

It's freshly molted, but he couldn't confirm via exo because it was munched

Mako16 · Jul 21, 2015

Yes .. the one in question is freshly molted (3 days ago ) .. grrr it really annoys me now .. I've should have wait with selling her/him . I guess the new owner will have to wait for another molt or replace it with the new confirmed female

ARACHNO-SMACK48 · Jul 21, 2015

1st one looks male.

lalberts9310 · Jul 22, 2015

I think you should give the new owner the confirmed female instead IMHO

Misty Day · Jul 22, 2015

Honestly the 1st one looks like a girl to me. You can see a very obvious slit in the first picture, is she younger than the no.2 female? The smaller it is the different it may appear to your confirmed female.

lalberts9310 · Jul 22, 2015

Misty Day said:
Honestly the 1st one looks like a girl to me. You can see a very obvious slit in the first picture, is she younger than the no.2 female? The smaller it is the different it may appear to your confirmed female.

He said they are both around 5", I'm also still on my original guess though, but it's confusing me when I look at the ventral picture of the second one.

Misty Day · Jul 22, 2015

lalberts9310 said:
He said they are both around 5", I'm also still on my original guess though, but it's confusing me when I look at the ventral picture of the second one.

Hmm, I think at that size the "dot" would be very visible, but then again I've never owned Violaceopes so I don't have much to go on in terms of different examples of genders. I'm still sticking with girl though.

Austin S. · Jul 22, 2015

Mkay.... now after seeing a confirmed male sp. blue, I don't know what this one is now. Still think male, but I'm more confused.
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/showimage.php?i=37514&c=9

Storm76 · Jul 22, 2015

Nr. 1 is a male, otherwise if their size is the same, you'd see a more prominent slit in my experience. Granted, I don't own this species but the rules for sexing apply to all T's the same. And I'm seing a male here in the 1st picture.

Mako16 · Jul 23, 2015

Interesting ..

thanks for the the opinions guys! The funny thing about them is also that they are the same size, from the same eggsac ,
and are molting within 1 week or so ! If they were a couple I think they wouldn't be so close to each other?

Here are some dorsal comparison pics ..

( confirmed female below , and the one in question is above )

lalberts9310 · Jul 23, 2015

Hopefully when it molts again you get an intact exo, I'm really looking forward to know what it turns out to be

Mako16 · Jul 24, 2015

lalberts9310 said:
Hopefully when it molts again you get an intact exo, I'm really looking forward to know what it turns out to be

Yeah me too! We both come to an agreement for the exchange, and I think this is the best thing to do right now

Here is one more dorsal comparison ( confirmed female on top, and the one in question at the bottom ) . I will surely let you know what it turns out to be!

Nicolas C · Jul 26, 2015

Mako16 said:
The funny thing about them is also that they are the same size, from the same eggsac ,
and are molting within 1 week or so ! If they were a couple I think they wouldn't be so close to each other?

The exact same thing happened to two of my L violaceopes (same size, same eggsack, same molting, etc.), but one of them was a male and the other one a confirmed female. If I try to compare your picture with mine (which was a male), it looks rather different to me. Then I would conclude that both of yours are female. But I'm far of being a specialist for ventral sexing! Tell us as soon as you have a way to examine the next molt (if it isn't chewed... mine always do that too!!!).

viper69 · Jul 27, 2015

Lvs are typically very easy to ID for 2 reasons. You can use the "dot method", males will have a dot as early as 1.5" or 2" DLS, ventrally by the book lungs, anterior, and of course the genders are typically very different in color. Males being the drab olive green. I've had males both times so far.

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