Anybody handled any defensive t's before?

evil_educator · Feb 21, 2005

Hi.

I was wondering if any of you guys who own T's like H. lividum, H. minax, T. Blondi, C. Crawshayi, P. murinus and other very defensive T's actually handled them before?

taorchard1987 · Feb 21, 2005

ive held my h.lividum before,, thats was only because she got out, this was about a month ago when i first had her, she didnt mind much but i wouldnt advise anyone to try it.

Cirith Ungol · Feb 21, 2005

Look in the pics forum under words like "giant", "Theraphosa", "handling" there you will eventually find many pics of people holding various defensive Ts.

evil_educator · Feb 21, 2005

taorchard1987 said:
ive held my h.lividum before,, thats was only because she got out, this was about a month ago when i first had her, she didnt mind much but i wouldnt advise anyone to try it.

Wow she didn't mind? I was trying to pick up my H. minax. When i touched the legs, it turned and was about to bite me. Luckily i took out my hand just in time. I don't think she likes to be handled at all.

Sheri · Feb 21, 2005

You know... they never "like" being handled. They respond to it as a threat, or they don't.

Certain species are more likely to respond to it as a threat.
IF you search for "handle" and "aggressive" you will get many returned results.
(sounds like a tarantula hobbyists fortune cookie)

Rob1985 · Feb 21, 2005

From the info I have read about my T I will never handle it unless an emergancy. apperently it has more potent venom than an average T.

CedrikG · Feb 21, 2005

heum yes defensive T usually have more "toxic" venom then the general , and + the spider is more defensive I would'nt risk a defensive T

Crotalus · Feb 21, 2005

Kirdec said:
heum yes defensive T usually have more "toxic" venom then the general , and + the spider is more defensive I would'nt risk a defensive T

And why would that be?

/Lelle

CedrikG · Feb 21, 2005

because some of teh defensive T are from region where there's more danger and need bigger venom, like some species of africa by exemple
I can tell you soem species that are agressive or more defensive / nervous
P murinus, H maculata,most poecilotheria, T blondi is a little bit stronger then the magority...

why did I have to explain that you dont know which species hae a more potent venom ?

danread · Feb 21, 2005

Kirdec said:
because some of teh defensive T are from region where there's more danger and need bigger venom, like some species of africa by exemple

There is more danger in Africa? How exactly?

CedrikG · Feb 21, 2005

well I've read somewhere cant remember where i'll try to find they said that species that are from region where prey or danger were more present the venom were generally more potent, it would make a lot of sens, and I dont know enough africa to answer your question lol but i've read that somewhere

rbpeake1 · Feb 21, 2005

Handling

I believe the liklihood of handling also depends on the personality of your individual T. Some may not like to be handled at all, and I believe you have to respect that. We have 2 cats, and one loves to be handled and the other does not. So we do not pick up the one that does not like it, and she does fine. The same is true for T's.

It may sound strange to respect your spiders' feelings, but that seems to be the case from my experience!

galeogirl · Feb 21, 2005

I've handled some aggressive species to administer medical treatment or during transfers, mating, etc. I try to use hands-off methods whenever possible, but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way and you end up with one running up your arm or something.

And do we really need to start the handling debate again this week?

CedrikG · Feb 21, 2005

rbpeake1 said:
I believe the liklihood of handling also depends on the personality of your individual T. Some may not like to be handled at all, and I believe you have to respect that. We have 2 cats, and one loves to be handled and the other does not. So we do not pick up the one that does not like it, and she does fine. The same is true for T's.

It may sound strange to respect your spiders' feelings, but that seems to be the case from my experience!

you might think this tread interesting there was a big debate about it

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=40400
I agree with you respecting the animal, you're not strange

rbpeake1 · Feb 21, 2005

Kirdec said:
you might think this tread interesting there was a big debate about it

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=40400
I agree with you respecting the animal, you're not strange

Thanks for the link! I guess that individual humans are as different as individual spiders, which of course makes total sense! Yay for diversity!

And spiders seem incredibly flexible in general, and so are able to put up with a wide variety of human behaviors and do just fine!

CedrikG · Feb 21, 2005

but all this to say that some of the defensive T got a more potent venom, that was'nt to start a debate at all I was just answering the question , not only that theeres more risk because they're defensive but also because the venom is SOMETIME a little bit more potent

im not only a debate man heeheh
no I did'nt handled a defensive T

I did'nt handled any of my T

Fred · Feb 21, 2005

I've held both my blondi numerous times, they never kick hairs which is unusual for blondi, and I've held my really defensive lasiodorides striatus(she use to be nice until she molted) and I only had to hold her because she was trying to get out when I was refilling her water.

RazorRipley · Feb 21, 2005

Ive picked up most of the tarantulas I currently keep. Some of the more 'defensive' would be the 2 cobalt blues, and the horned baboon (marshalli). If done calmly and slowly, most tarantulas will be picked up without striking. The only of my collection which I will not handle is the skeleton, the usamabara oranges, the psalmopoeus(es) and the poecilotherias.

becca81 · Feb 21, 2005

Crotalus said:
And why would that be?

/Lelle

I haven't thought through this too much, but what about the fact that OW species (most of the defensive species are OW...) don't have the extra defense mechanism of urticating hairs, so they "make up" for it with a more potent venom?

I don't know, just a thought...

evil_educator · Feb 21, 2005

Yeah i noticed my H. minax does not kick hair and have no bald patches. So instead of kicking hair, they bite eh?

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