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Our male A.avic is in the death curl position. Would it be better to put him out of his misery now to ease his pain or just let him die naturally?
Malhavoc's said:I'm assuming adult male correct? I vote other. I would attempt to see if rehydrating him brings him out of it. If not I'd let him go naturaly as I'm not sure exactly what a tarantula would feel at that point in life..perhaps its just like us doseing off at old age?
Interesting.SpiderDork said:Here is a link to a short newspaper article in which Norwegian scientist determined that invertebrates do not feel pain.
Not so much reading it wrongly, but rather reading too much into an issue of evidence. We can conclusively show that it's impossible for the vast majority of invertebrates to conceptually feel pain in the same way as a vertebrate, which is what the article addresses. However, successfully demonstrating that does not 100.0% rule out there might not be some form of limited awareness that allows them a *feeling* of pain using a sort of nervous system architecture we are somehow ignorant of, but I'd put that more in the category of covering their arses with the animal rights groups rather than any sort of doubt about the issue.becca81 said:Interesting.
However, the article mentions at one point that invertebrates do not feel pain, but at another point Dr. Fraser says that it doesn't prove that they don't feel pain - just that they work differently. Sounds inconclusive, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.
I was thinking it may be something along these lines.Code Monkey said:. but I'd put that more in the category of covering their arses with the animal rights groups rather than any sort of doubt about the issue.
very interesting article, it was very interesting to say the least. Helps to put my mind at ease that it may be possible that he is not suffering.SpiderDork said:Here is a link to a short newspaper article in which Norwegian scientist determined that invertebrates do not feel pain. The study was initially started to determine if lobsters felt pain. The article does not go into depth about the study but I'm sure a little research on the web would reveal specifics for those interested.
http://www.hindu.com/seta/2005/03/03/stories/2005030301751500.htm
I do have a seven inch T.blondi. :? What do you all think about feeding him to the blondi?tony said:Do you have anything that is hungry? Not to be crude, but it could make the ultimate sacrifice...
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It's a mature male, it IS going to die. You can stick it in an ICU, you can "force-feed" it pureed roach&cricket shakes, you can build a custom pyramid power "dome" for your spider room, it's still going to die. You can't save a mature male from what, by all appearances, is an effect of "scheduled maintenance".Gesticulator said:How's it doing??? Is it alive?? Have you tried an ICU???
If it's a mature male - it's over. As CM pointed out, there is no changing the fact that it's going to die. It's just what happens.NYCspiderGuy said:Tarantulas do odd things and I would personally not give up until sure it was over.
Seems like this could lead to a Renfield thing... keep feeding one to the other and ultimately consume the souls yourself? Sounds very
Nature-Channel to feed one to another as in the wild, but this is your house and they are your responsibility.
I will feed goldfish to my snake, but I'm not going to put fighting Bettas together just because they would fight in the wild. Dogfights next?(kidding)