Dipluridae ssp. "Bolivia/Brazil"

aftershock · Apr 7, 2006

recluse · Apr 7, 2006

Awesome spider!

Hans

Brian S · Apr 7, 2006

Now that looks good!!!! Are you sure it is not a Theraposoid? It most certainly in a Mygolamorph

cacoseraph · Apr 7, 2006

gosh those are pretty!

i am lucky to have many myglas in the wild around me... but most are brown... or then there are the brown ones... OH! and some are light brown and some are dark brown
but i do love them all

i think i love that one a tiny bit more though

thanks for posting

oblivion56 · Apr 7, 2006

that is trechona venosa

aftershock · Apr 8, 2006

Yes. It's "probably" a Trechona venosa, I bought it as a Dipluridae ssp "possibly T venosa".

It's a nice spider, I have two subadult females and one semiadult male so hopefully sweet love will be in the air in a few months.

oblivion56 · Apr 8, 2006

i caught many of those in venezuela

aftershock · Apr 8, 2006

How large were the specimens you caught?

oblivion56 · Apr 8, 2006

about an inch and a half.i have heard they have a strong venom also.

Stefan2209 · Apr 8, 2006

oblivion56 said:
about an inch and a half.i have heard they have a strong venom also.

Hi,

may i ask from which source this info originates?

BÜCHERL stated this nearly half a century back. Based on non-scientific observations. Since then, nobody has ever reported anything similar....

Newest toxicological literature strongly suggests to forget about that saying...

Greetings,

Stefan

oblivion56 · Apr 8, 2006

the locals in venezuela said they have a bad bite,if you do a google search for t.v,there are many references to its venom.

Stefan2209 · Apr 8, 2006

Hi again,

yes, there are indeed many clues linking to the toxicity of T. venosa. They all have something in common: if you follow them back to their roots, you´ll find BÜCHLER...

As to what the locals "know": there are many stories about locals that just don´t know <edit> about the animals in their proximity. To show just one example take Peru: to the very best knowledge of the locals Avicularia spec. is a high-toxic killer, Phoneutria fera instead is completely harmless....

I was really glad to have my eyes opened up by such educated specialists....

Ain´t enough yet? Check out the "Podadora" and "Mico", some other species that were former believed to be significant toxic by the locals and had been taken for so by BÜCHLER and his allies. Strange, never heard something about this again...

Greetings,

Stefan

P.S. If you´re really interested in toxicity i suggest to do background research about the toxicity of Ctenopsis stellata, too.

aftershock · Apr 8, 2006

I was actually bitten by one of mine when it was a really tiny sling. I was amazed it could penetrate the skin. It ran out of it's little container when I sprayed, and caught it on my hand.

It walked calmy and then just put it's SMALL fang in my hand. I was a little bit surprised and then it started to hurt...alot. The pain stayed for a few days and then nothing more. I don't want to get bitten now though, when thay are about 3" Yesterday I saw it when she bit a zophobas mealworm and it died more or less instantly.

oblivion56 · Apr 8, 2006

yeah,i never said they are deadly,just heard they had a bad bite.the locals were very knowledgable of the local inverts in the area,so i tend to believe them,they live with them and i'm sure they have been bite by them,so i listen to them!

Jmadson13 · Apr 9, 2006

Very interesting.

T.Raab · Apr 10, 2006

Interessting Thread. I keep also six of those Diplruidae sp. Mine are from Bolivia (i dont know the exact part) and where importet by a german dealer who breed them then.
I didnt heard of any taxonomic ID of this species, so nobody can tell if its a Trechona venosa or even a Trechona. I would be very careful with the use of the name Trechona venosa.

After my spiders mature, i will try to verify the species with the redescription of Trechona venosa made by PEDROSO et al.

PEDROSO, D. R. & R. L. C. BAPTISTA, (2004). Redescription of Trechona venosa (Latreille, 1832) and designation of its neotype (Araneae: Dipluridae). Revista Ibérica de Aracnología, Zaragoza, 10: 149-156.

Bastian Drolshagen · Sep 15, 2006

hi, timo and me were now able to id this species as a Linothele sp.
Here in germany the next generation of CBs of this species already hatched

surfer · Sep 19, 2006

Dipluridae sp. mating

Picture from mating this species.

Bastian Drolshagen · Apr 1, 2007

hi,
sry for getting back to that thread again, but that:

oblivion56 said:
i caught many of those in venezuela

is pretty funny, since T. venosa doesn´t occur in Venezuela. After Baptista & Pedroso (2004) it only occurs in Brazil; in atlantic forests south of Rio de Janeiro.
BUT there can be found several species of Dipluridae (for example Diplura sanguinea, Diplura lineata; although those species are not described for Venezuela they seem to occur there, at least D. sanguinea), which can easily be confused with T. venosa.

Stefan2209 · Apr 28, 2007

Improver said:
hi,
sry for getting back to that thread again, but that:

is pretty funny, since T. venosa doesn´t occur in Venezuela. After Baptista & Pedroso (2004) it only occurs in Brazil;

Hi there,

sorry, again for diggin this up,

BUT: bottom line:

No toxicity of Trechona venosa proofed, not even Trechona venosa found in the general area, let alone that country.

Just hot air...

Take care, everyone.

Greetings,

Stefan

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