can someone identify this scorpion???

Splintercell

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Hello,

I have a scorpion here, captured in Guatemala. (central america)
I dont know what species it is however.
It is a buthida, that is for sure: Triangle sternum!!!
That's all I know.
Anyone of you who know what it is?

PS: If other pics are needed to identify,
please tell me what to photograph
and I ll put it online.

Kind regards, Tom.
 
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Deolok

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The way the body is structured it looks kind of like mesobuthus cyprius, but I am pretty sure that is far from possible because if you located in Guatemala:? ... You were right about Buthidae though.... Shoot, have to look a bit more. ((Still working on becoming an expert myself {D ))
 

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From my informally educated eye, at first glance it looks like a Vaejovis sp. but the carapace looks like that of a hottentotta.

Whatever species this is, it is very nice!
 

Michael

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Hi Tom Clancy,
Hmmmmmm Guatemala? I see the Lyre and "H"shaped marking on the carapace which means it's a Buthus sp. and no Buthus are reported from the new world;)
 

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origin of scorp?

Hello,

Thanks for the replies.
About the location, I can tell the following:
I bought the scorp from an arachno-shop here in belgium.
The owner had the scorp in a small terrarium in his shop
but didn't want to sell it because he didn't know the species and so, how dangerous it would be.He told me that he didnt know where he got the scorp
from anymore, he only knew that it was a local inhabitant of the region who found it and sold it to him.Since the guy was in Central America a couple of months ago...he was there to order spiders and lizards for his shop...
I thought it was from there.
You see, I bought a Cyclosternum Fasciatus Davius couple from him.
He said that, if he remembers right, he bought the scorp on the same trip.
So, I am not sure where it comes from at all.
Might be Africa or no matter what actualy...
Dont have a clue.

Greetz, Tom.
 

Rigelus

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Scorpion Fauna has these scorpions listed as being native to Guatamala.

Centruroides gracilis
Centruroides margaritatus margaritatus
Centruroides schmidti
Centruroides thorellii
Plesiochactas mitchelli
Opisthacanthus elatus
Diplocentrus maya
Diplocentrus taibeli
Vaejovis chiapas

If you are a million percent sure that your scorpion is from Guatamala then it must be one of these (unless it's an undescribed species..)

Eliminate the ones you know it's not and research the remaining..:D
 

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either a mesobuthus or hottentotta. and IMO not from america whaha!
 

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Im going to go with Michael and say its a Buthus sp.


Cheers.
 

Splintercell

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Could it be a buthus from eastafrica

Hello,

A friend of mine says it could be a buthus spec. from Aestafrica,
like Buthus occithanus for example, however I would be happier if it was a Hottentotta specimen ;-) I have the scorp since a week. It ate 4 crickets almost as big as itself (not the brown but the black ones, verry big, about 1 inch.)Every day one. So I thinke it's a she, and preparing herself to put some new scorps in this world.

What do ya all think? Buthus occithanus, hottentotta, or something else?

Regards, Tom.
 

Michiel

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I agree with Michael, the H-shaped granules on the carapace give it away....in don't know the species.....
Your tarantula is called Cyclosternum fasciatum. Davus fasciatum is an old name.....
petshop people :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

Splintercell

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Hottentotta spec.

Well, Thanks for all replies.
I think it's a Hottentotta hottentotta spec.
That is what most people think when they see the pic's.

Thanks for the help@all.

Kind regards, Tom.
 

Ythier

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I think it's a Hottentotta hottentotta spec.
No it's a Buthus for sure, look at the lyre-shaped carinal structure, looks like a B.occitanus from Israel.
Regarding the location, I recently bought in a petshop some scorpions "sp" coming from Chile... Heterometrus xanthopus after identification... and the shop was totally sure of the location :rolleyes:
 

Splintercell

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buthus occithanus

No it's a Buthus for sure, look at the lyre-shaped carinal structure, looks like a B.occitanus from Israel.
Okay,
So it is a Buthus occithanus?
I dont really know. But hey, could be!
So, is there no possibility it could be a hottentotta?
(I dont know that much about scorps, sorry)

But hey, Buthus occithanus is fine for me to.
I really think its a beautifull scorp.
It spends hours cleaning itself and
therefore it uses liquid from her mouth.
She ate 7 crickets in about 9 days!
The crickets are about 2 cm. (so the really big black/darkbrouwn once)
Her body is only about 3 cm tall.
So since this huge apetite and the wild capturing,
I think she is pregnant. (or almost starved to death)

Thanks for the Occithanus tip.

Greetz, Tom.
 

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Hi,

shouldn´t it be B. intumescens for which B. occitanus israelis is a synonym if it´s from Israel? I don´t think you can determine it down to sp level by that pics. But B. occitanus sensu lato is a good guess. Also I´m not sure if all these new Buthus spp (I´ve lost the overview a bit ;) )are indeed "good species".
 

Ythier

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Hi,

shouldn´t it be B. intumescens for which B. occitanus israelis is a synonym if it´s from Israel? I don´t think you can determine it down to sp level by that pics. But B. occitanus sensu lato is a good guess. Also I´m not sure if all these new Buthus spp (I´ve lost the overview a bit ;) )are indeed "good species".
Yes thank for the rectification Alex, I need some times to aapt myself to new names... it's still B.o.israelis in my mind ;)
And Tom, of course B.intumescens is just a supposition, I think it looks like, but as told Alex, it's impossible to tell you for sure the ID with a photo.
 
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Michael

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IMO more a Senorita, but as Eric says it's nearly impossible to say that offcourse;)
 
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