Pampobetus sp "platyomma"/Vitalius wacketi??

[Paxter]

Pampobetus sp "platyomma"/Vitalius wacketi??
As i just got 2 spices of this spider at home, i got a ???
the lockations on this spider is not the sa´me as on Platniks list...:

Platnick siger:
platyomma Mello-Leitão, 1923 -- see Vitalius.

Then we look at...Vitalus:

Gen. Vitalius Lucas, Silva & Bertani, 1993

mf wacketi (Mello-Leitão, 1923)....................Brazil

Pamphobeteus platyomma Bücherl, 1949a: 126, pl. II (m, misidentified).
Pamphobeteus platyomma Bücherl, 1957: 403, f. 86 (m, misidentified).
Pterinopelma w. Bücherl, Timotheo & Lucas, 1971: 129 (Tm from Eurypelma=Avicularia, erroneous S of V. dubius and V. vellutinus).
Pamphobeteus litoralis Piza, 1976b: 56 (Dm).
Pamphobeteus platyomma Schmidt, 1986: 59, f. 96 (m, misidentified).
V. platyomma Schmidt, 1993d: 100, f. 307 (m, misidentified).
Aphonopelma w. Schmidt, 1997g, 1998h: 19, f. 176, 183 (m).
V. platyomma Schmidt, 1997g, 1998h: 20, f. 229 (m, misidentified).
V. platyomma Schmidt, 1998d: 5, f. 3 (f, misidentified).
V. platyomma Peters, 2000b: 132, f. 388-389 (mf, misidentified).
V. w. Bertani, 2001: 294, f. 16, 83-86, 179-180 (Tm from Aphonopelma, Sf).
V. w. Peters, 2003: 312, f. 1250-1252, 1258-1260 (mf).

Dvs Pampobetus sp "platyomma" = Vitalius wacketi, Rigth....?
I Soud be found at Mello-Leitão Rigth...??

I have Got the info from the boddy, who has found this spices,at the parrot.mountain, in the northwest ekuador- Up till the borede to Colombia.

I cording to the man, that´s brod this spices to DK, is this lokation 3000 Km from Mello-Leitão.

Im confused, do this spider have a continent over 3000 Km in this lokation, im wery confused....???
is he or my self not good at georagrafi here ?? he wont tell the 100% rigth lokation, so i can be tolt any thing here....?

If some of your all pleace can help me pleace, ill be greatfull.....

Becurse imm lost, and the man that has found this spider, dont know him self, what spices it is......?????

Taken from... platnick : The World Spider Catalog, by Norman I. Platnick

Paxter - DK sorry my spelling...... hope you under stad me rigth.....



anyway Thanks ! hope for help here....... im lost.....

[GoTerps]

I cording to the man, that´s brod this spices to DK, is this lokation 3000 Km from Mello-Leitão.

Im confused, do this spider have a continent over 3000 Km in this lokation, im wery confused....???

Mello-Leitão is the person who described the species, not the location the spider was found.

But, this is irrelevant to the spider you have anyway.

The spider you have, what we call Pamphobeteus sp. "platyomma" is a presumably undescribed species belonging to the genus Pamphobeteus.

This is NOT the spider described as P. platyomma which was then transfered to Vitalius... that is not a valid name anymore anyway (Nomina dubia).

V. wacketi is a different spider and a valid species.

Eric

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Just to add to Eric's words.
If I remeber correct Rogerio Bertani told into www comunication after his great work on this theraphosid group (Vitalius and related genera) that he suppose this species to be Pamphobeteus species, but it need more examination to be sure.
So, if one day it is change it's genus name we should not be surprised.

[Paxter]

Sorry about the location, buy if you google the name, Vitalius wacketi there are some pic. thats is a Pamphobeteus sp. "platyomma" ... That´s is one more thing thats make me wounder...?

And why do Platnik also came up with that name...?

Originally Posted by GoTerps

Mello-Leitão is the person who described the species, not the location the spider was found.

But, this is irrelevant to the spider you have anyway.

The spider you have, what we call Pamphobeteus sp. "platyomma" is a presumably undescribed species belonging to the genus Pamphobeteus.

This is NOT the spider described as P. platyomma which was then transfered to Vitalius... that is not a valid name anymore anyway (Nomina dubia).

V. wacketi is a different spider and a valid species.

Eric

Paxter...

[Paxter]

And does any one know this spiders location...?
as the man i know wont tell excaktly.....!


Paxter.

[Martin H.]

Originally Posted by Paxter

Sorry about the location, buy if you google the name, Vitalius wacketi there are some pic. thats is a Pamphobeteus sp. "platyomma" ... That´s is one more thing thats make me wounder...?

on the internet, anyone can lable any photo as he wishes – correct or not! There is no peer review for correct labels!
e.g. search for "haplopelma minax" and you'll find plenty of photos of Ornithoctonus aureotibialis.

And you have to differentiate the scientific world and changes in the scientific world for which rules and regulations do exist (International Code of Zoological Nomenclature, ICZN) and names/labels in the pet trade - often two completely different worlds!