I got 2 new______??? today

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well i got some more new T's today. I sincerely Apologise for the vague common names. My hope is that with these you all can help me identify them.
the second pic "tawny" is an underside shot, I am guessing female, hoping really. <EDIT> i know the second pic sucks badly, and should be removed for reasons of saftey but i did not want to delete it <EDIT> Ordered them through the petstore i work at. The dealer barely lists common names but i figured at the prices i got for adults, what the heck right?

Well they were named "earth tiger" my guess is hapolopelma something...
and the other looks like a T. blondi but was called "tawny" something or orther.

heres some pics. bad i know but these guys (hopefully girls) were less than cooperative to say the least.

"earth tiger"


"Tawny"
Pic deleted, i just could not bear the blur...
basicly a brown spider resembling a T. blondi
 
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I can't help ya out with the identifying, but that first T needs to fatten up!




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yeah i just got them today. the "earth tiger" is munching 4 crix now...
 

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thats good. its amazing what 4 crickets will do for her, its nice to know she has a good home now. good work :clap:




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I dunno either but very nice T, I love Haps species.

also, thats very typical for haps to have a small abdomen, it looks fine to me.
 

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Wading in the mysterious and wondrous swamp of common names, I saw 'tawny' referring to Grammostola grossa/mollicoma and Hysterocrates spp.
 

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well thanks for looking. I could not find anything. The "tawny" is quite a handful. I swear it thinks it is an OBT. It will just about flip over completely when i open the tank, and it is threat posing the whole time.
 

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IMO looks 'similar' to Cyriopagopus thorelli???? Or maybe a haplopelma sp?
 

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Joe1968 said:
thats very typical for haps to have a small abdomen, it looks fine to me.
Not to me! Looks VERY underfed. Or, could have just came out of a molt. Either way the crix should fatten it up. As far as the common names go I think there are 2 Haplopelma "earth tigers" a golden and a black. Both are considered Haplopelma schmidti, there just happen to be 2 color variations. Or so (they) say. They being T dealers, and I suppose taxonomists. EDIT: The more I look at the pic it looks like Cyclosternum schmardae. "From the pic provided", this is what I am voting you have. :)
 
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YIKES :eek: -that's a very pretty T- but it looks like a carapace with legs! Baby's got no back!! S/he needs some TLC, IMO!!
 

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wow, the first one is amazingly skinny. I am glad you fed it. :eek:
 

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The T on the first pic looks like a T that is offered under the name: "Ornithoctonus hainana" in Europe.

And she is indeed underfed, but I think that is just because she had recently moulted.
 

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thats how i got them, they both have eaten about 12 crix in the last 24 hours. I called my boss at the pet store and asked if he had any more info, the dealer sheet said "chineese black earth tiger" but i am still unsure about the second. Perhaps i'll get a chance to check out the dealer sheet for myself tomorrow.

EDIT: note on feeding newly shipped T's. I have heard it is unwise to feed freshly shipped T's as soon as you recieve them. Something about stress from shipping. but this guy needed food, and alot of it.
 

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Pheonixx, Does it have yellowish bands between each leg segment? If so I'm still going with Cyclosternum schmardae, if not probably Haplopelma schmidti (black)..........Anyone else? :?
 
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Arachnojunkie, I'd have to agree with you. It looks alot like a C. Schmardee (AKA: Yellow-Banded Birdeater), look close at the first and fourth set of legs. It looks like some yellow bands to me. The prosoma doesn't look like a schmidti to me. Nice looking T Pheonixx. Anyone else have an opinion?
 

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Pheonixx said:
well thanks for looking. I could not find anything. The "tawny" is quite a handful. I swear it thinks it is an OBT. It will just about flip over completely when i open the tank, and it is threat posing the whole time.

She is prolly like that because she was starving, maybe after a week or two of constant feeding she will calm down. Good luck.



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The T on the first pic looks like a T that is offered under the name: "Ornithoctonus hainana" in Europe.

And she is indeed underfed, but I think that is just because she had recently moulted.


I'm going to agree with Prizz, a good friend of mine was in the same situation a few months back, and thats what it was ruled to be... does it have the white mustache? If so then i would definately say Ornithoctonus hainana. :)
 

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i really did not get close enough to see. both T's were very un happy. The second T (not pictured because all the pics came out blurry for some reason) looks a heck of a lot like a T. blondi without all the fuzz. I'll try to get some better pics today if my boss at the pet store cant get me a copy of the list he orders from.
 

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For a start I would go with the "hunch" that this is Haplopelma sp. "aureopilosum" or Haplopelma sp. "Surat Thani". An additional shot of the spider in full figure with a good view of the chelicerae would make it possible to sort out H. hainana and C. schmardae (sic!).

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Pheonixx said:
well i got some more new T's today. I sincerely Apologise for the vague common names. My hope is that with these you all can help me identify them.
the second pic "tawny" is an underside shot, I am guessing female, hoping really. <EDIT> i know the second pic sucks badly, and should be removed for reasons of saftey but i did not want to delete it <EDIT> Ordered them through the petstore i work at. The dealer barely lists common names but i figured at the prices i got for adults, what the heck right?

Well they were named "earth tiger" my guess is hapolopelma something...
and the other looks like a T. blondi but was called "tawny" something or orther.

heres some pics. bad i know but these guys (hopefully girls) were less than cooperative to say the least.

"earth tiger"


"Tawny"
Pic deleted, i just could not bear the blur...
basicly a brown spider resembling a T. blondi
 
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