ID of Mexican T (?)

John Bokma · 07-03-2005, 10:12 PM

Found it today, the fovea is pink colored, almost a dusted pink color. The abdomen of the spider has pink bands, like a wasp (6 or 7 pink bands, on a dark, almost black "background".

Found it in the state Veracruz, Mexico.

ChrisNCT · 07-03-2005, 10:35 PM

Does it look like this:

If it does.. it is a C. fasciatum (Costa Rican Tigerrump)

**GoTerps** · 07-03-2005, 10:50 PM

Davus fasciatus (C. fasciatum) does not occur in Mexico.

How about a picture?

ChrisNCT · 07-03-2005, 10:55 PM

I know that..... but I can't think of any other type which those markings

John Bokma · 07-03-2005, 11:32 PM

Quite a bad picture, apologies. Will take more when the spider is settled. Found it near Cardel (Buenavista), Veracruz, Mexico.

It looks indeed exactly like the Costa Rican tigerrump (Cyclosternum fasciatum), so I guess that's what it is.

The plastic lid has a diameter of 12 cm.

It was quite a fascinating day, I found 2 scorpions, the tarantula, and 3 exoskeletons of a scorpion all very close together. One scorpion, a big one, probably female, got away :-( While I was looking for more scorpions a small lizard walked from a roof tile I was holding on my arm, shirt, pants, and down. Another big nice colored lizard came watching

It sounds like I visited a pet shop, but no :-)

ChrisNCT · 07-03-2005, 11:34 PM

We may have a winner! Although as mentioned before...these are not usually found in mexcio.

Other than that there are smaller sp. that could possibly be it.

**GoTerps** · 07-03-2005, 11:39 PM

That picture doesn't mean it's D. fasciatus. There are quite a few species which look remarkably similar.

John Bokma · 07-03-2005, 11:46 PM

It was found in Veracruz, and I doubt it was imported, but if it's not the Davus fasciatus (C. fasciatum) any other options?

The first pattern on the abdomen looks extremely similar ( =0= ), the pink line, with a pink round in the middle, with a black spot. Also the radial pattern on the fovea.

We found it between roof tiles in a meadow (see picture), and I have no idea if it's imported how it could get there (maybe banana plants but I doubt they are imported from costa rica).

So if it doesn't live in Mexico, how did it end up being there.

Sheri · 07-04-2005, 12:49 AM

It looks a little dwarfish to me...

But I had more to add than my expert opinion...

This is a great thread in terms of IDing, and for just high quality posting.

A real tarantula, found in the wild, with locale, and pics showing the locale.

I hope you get your ID!

And damn, I wish I lived there.

FryLock · 07-04-2005, 01:04 AM

iirc Fabian Vol collected a Davus fasciatus "lookalike" in Veracruz Mexico, there's a good chance this could be one of them.

John Bokma · 07-04-2005, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheri

It looks a little dwarfish to me...

But I had more to add than my expert opinion...

This is a great thread in terms of IDing, and for just high quality posting.

A real tarantula, found in the wild, with locale, and pics showing the locale.

I hope you get your ID!

And damn, I wish I lived there.

I forgot to mention that between those tiles I also found a tailless whip spider :-) I heard that they are quite fragile, so I decided not to take it with me :-)
So it was like a little pet shop :-)

**Windchaser** · 07-04-2005, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoTerps

Davus fasciatus (C. fasciatum)

When did the name change occur? I don'r recall hearing about it, but have seen the "new" name several times now. Just curious.

BTW, I can't offer anything different than what has already been offered as far as the ID is concerned.

M.F.Bagaturov · 07-04-2005, 09:11 AM

Here is the info You're looking for: http://tarantulas.tropica.ru/english...ink=evol5.html
Enjoi!

Martin H. · 07-04-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windchaser

When did the name change occur? I don'r recall hearing about it, but have seen the "new" name several times now. Just curious.

SCHMIDT, G. (2005): Die Gattung Davus O.P. - CAMBRIDGE, 1892 (Arachnida: Araneae: Theraphosidae: Theraphosinae). Tarantulas of the World 104: 7-18.

all the best,
Martin

John Bokma · 07-04-2005, 04:10 PM

I started a new thread: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/show...hp?t=47471with a better subject. (Probably should have renamed the title of this one, OTOH this might have been confusing for others).

07-03-2005, 10:12 PM	#1
John Bokma Arachnobaron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Xalapa, Mexico Posts: 364	ID of Mexican T (?) Found it today, the fovea is pink colored, almost a dusted pink color. The abdomen of the spider has pink bands, like a wasp (6 or 7 pink bands, on a dark, almost black "background". Found it in the state Veracruz, Mexico. __________________ No trading, sorry My blog a Perl programmer living in Mexico - field trips with photos of scorpions, tarantulas, uropygids, amblypigids, etc.

07-03-2005, 10:50 PM	#3
GoTerps Arachnoturtle Arachnomoderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 1,280 Images: 88	Davus fasciatus (C. fasciatum) does not occur in Mexico. How about a picture? __________________ Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution. ~Theodosius Dobzhansky MY FLICKR

07-03-2005, 11:32 PM	#5
John Bokma Arachnobaron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Xalapa, Mexico Posts: 364	Quite a bad picture, apologies. Will take more when the spider is settled. Found it near Cardel (Buenavista), Veracruz, Mexico. It looks indeed exactly like the Costa Rican tigerrump (Cyclosternum fasciatum), so I guess that's what it is. The plastic lid has a diameter of 12 cm. It was quite a fascinating day, I found 2 scorpions, the tarantula, and 3 exoskeletons of a scorpion all very close together. One scorpion, a big one, probably female, got away :-( While I was looking for more scorpions a small lizard walked from a roof tile I was holding on my arm, shirt, pants, and down. Another big nice colored lizard came watching It sounds like I visited a pet shop, but no :-) __________________ No trading, sorry My blog a Perl programmer living in Mexico - field trips with photos of scorpions, tarantulas, uropygids, amblypigids, etc.

07-03-2005, 11:34 PM	#6
ChrisNCT Arachnoangel Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CT Posts: 896 Images: 13 My Mood:	We may have a winner! Although as mentioned before...these are not usually found in mexcio. Other than that there are smaller sp. that could possibly be it. Last edited by ChrisNCT; 07-03-2005 at 11:50 PM.

07-03-2005, 11:39 PM	#7
GoTerps Arachnoturtle Arachnomoderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 1,280 Images: 88	That picture doesn't mean it's D. fasciatus. There are quite a few species which look remarkably similar. __________________ Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution. ~Theodosius Dobzhansky MY FLICKR

07-03-2005, 10:35 PM	#2
ChrisNCT Arachnoangel Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CT Posts: 896 Images: 13 My Mood:	Does it look like this: If it does.. it is a C. fasciatum (Costa Rican Tigerrump)

07-03-2005, 10:55 PM	#4
ChrisNCT Arachnoangel Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CT Posts: 896 Images: 13 My Mood:	I know that..... but I can't think of any other type which those markings

07-03-2005, 11:46 PM	#8
John Bokma Arachnobaron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Xalapa, Mexico Posts: 364	It was found in Veracruz, and I doubt it was imported, but if it's not the Davus fasciatus (C. fasciatum) any other options? The first pattern on the abdomen looks extremely similar ( =0= ), the pink line, with a pink round in the middle, with a black spot. Also the radial pattern on the fovea. We found it between roof tiles in a meadow (see picture), and I have no idea if it's imported how it could get there (maybe banana plants but I doubt they are imported from costa rica). So if it doesn't live in Mexico, how did it end up being there. Last edited by John Bokma; 07-03-2005 at 11:58 PM.

07-04-2005, 12:49 AM	#9
Sheri Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: wild northwest Posts: 2,514 Images: 5	It looks a little dwarfish to me... But I had more to add than my expert opinion... This is a great thread in terms of IDing, and for just high quality posting. A real tarantula, found in the wild, with locale, and pics showing the locale. I hope you get your ID! And damn, I wish I lived there.

07-04-2005, 01:04 AM	#10
FryLock Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,464	iirc Fabian Vol collected a Davus fasciatus "lookalike" in Veracruz Mexico, there's a good chance this could be one of them.

07-04-2005, 09:11 AM	#13
M.F.Bagaturov Arachnoangel Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St.Petersburg, Moscow, Russia Posts: 961	Here is the info You're looking for: http://tarantulas.tropica.ru/english...ink=evol5.html Enjoi! __________________ All the best, Mikhail from Russia The Leningrad Zoo, St.Petersburg, Russia "Department of Insectarium and Amphibians" Zootechnist visit my website http://tarantulas.tropica.ru/

07-04-2005, 04:10 PM	#15
John Bokma Arachnobaron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Xalapa, Mexico Posts: 364	I started a new thread: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/show...hp?t=47471with a better subject. (Probably should have renamed the title of this one, OTOH this might have been confusing for others). __________________ No trading, sorry My blog a Perl programmer living in Mexico - field trips with photos of scorpions, tarantulas, uropygids, amblypigids, etc.

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