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+1. Always use a container.Not a smart way to transfer OW arboreals. It could have just as easily run up your arm and on your back, or across the room.
Nothing personal but I'm not a newbie. You might want to check out my join date. I've been doing this for a very long time. She is not aggressive at all. She may be a little flighty at times but I can handle her very easily. I have handled my fair share of fast T'sNot a smart way to transfer OW arboreals. It could have just as easily run up your arm and on your back, or across the room.
This is sound advice for those who are less experienced+1. Always use a container.
Thank you. I can't wait for her to get a few inches biggerThat's a Beautiful specimen .
I have never been bit. Yes it's my choice to handle. Not everyone should. I am experienced and I know what I am doing.It is your choice to handle whatever you feel like. But you are playing with fire. Its all good until you get bit. Just saying.
They are unpredictable, and if you were as experienced as you think you are, you'd have seen that a number of times already. I've transferred many to new cages, and last year had a juvenile regalis (same size as your LV) run out, jump on me, and run inside my shirt. No one can see that coming, just as you can't predict that your violaceopes won't suddenly make a dash up your arm and on your back, or run across the floor and get loose.Nothing personal but I'm not a newbie. You might want to check out my join date. I've been doing this for a very long time. She is not aggressive at all. She may be a little flighty at times but I can handle her very easily. I have handled my fair share of fast T's
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This is sound advice for those who are less experienced
Your quite the know it all aren't you? So you know me and my experience level too... Impressive. My join date does account for the fact I have been actively in the hobby since 2005. Got my first T in 1998. I have had experience in virtually every genus available on the market. I am very hands on with all my T's. I always have been and that won't change. I don't need you telling me what I am doing is wrong. That's your opinion (not a fact). I am comfortable holding my old worlds. I have a 6" M. balfouri that I hold constantly and I am sure you would say the same. She is very gentle and I have never had a problem. Each tarantula is different in personality regardless of the species. You can have a B. smithi that's aggressive and you can't handle or you can have a L. violaceopes that isn't aggressive. If you are unaware of this fact then you clearly don't have as much experience as you think you doThey are unpredictable, and if you were as experienced as you think you are, you'd have seen that a number of times already. I've transferred many to new cages, and last year had a juvenile regalis (same size as your LV) run out, jump on me, and run inside my shirt. No one can see that coming, just as you can't predict that your violaceopes won't suddenly make a dash up your arm and on your back, or run across the floor and get loose.
Transferring juvenile OW arboreals by hand is using poor judgment, not a sign of experience. Beginners can do it too, and be equally caught off guard when the spider does something unexpected. Your join date means nothing when you do things like this. It's not an example of your skill and prowess, it's a example of 'What not to do.'
Experience means nothing in this instance; no need to act like a jerk. An animal may at some point become defensive...at a time of their choosing, not ours...regardless of how many years we've been keeping them in glass or plastic boxes. Like it or not, none of us are special "spider whisperers" regardless of "experience". I don't usually get involved in the "handling vs. no handling" drama crap that happens on here, but the level of arrogance you're displaying here is a bit ridiculous.Your quite the know it all aren't you? So you know me and my experience level too... Impressive. My join date does account for the fact I have been actively in the hobby since 2005. Got my first T in 1998. I have had experience in virtually every genus available on the market. I am very hands on with all my T's. I always have been and that won't change. I don't need you telling me what I am doing is wrong. That's your opinion (not a fact). I am comfortable holding my old worlds. I have a 6" M. balfouri that I hold constantly and I am sure you would say the same. She is very gentle and I have never had a problem. Each tarantula is different in personality regardless of the species. You can have a B. smithi that's aggressive and you can't handle or you can have a L. violaceopes that isn't aggressive. If you are unaware of this fact then you clearly don't have as much experience as you think you do
If your not comfortable transferring it by hand absolutely. If you don't handle your T's then absolutely use a container.+1. Always use a container.
Well, it really is your choice to handle or not, get bit, your problem, T dies because of handling, your problem.. and most of all your fault.. just like it is your choice.. anyhow I have to agree with poec54 here, in fact you are right, he is the 'know it all' if that is how you want to state it. Everyone knows stan with the massive collection of nw Ts that got bit countless times due from handling, and everyone knows poec54 with the huge collection consisting mainly of ow Ts, who never gor bit.. and regarding to experience, poec54 has been in this hobby for a LOT longer than you can actually think, and has way more experience with Ts than anyone else I have ever seen.. so I don't think you have any right talking about experience here. Just because you handle ow Ts , doesn't mean that you are experienced, in-fact its more on the irresponsible side.Your quite the know it all aren't you? So you know me and my experience level too... Impressive. My join date does account for the fact I have been actively in the hobby since 2005. Got my first T in 1998. I have had experience in virtually every genus available on the market. I am very hands on with all my T's. I always have been and that won't change. I don't need you telling me what I am doing is wrong. That's your opinion (not a fact). I am comfortable holding my old worlds. I have a 6" M. balfouri that I hold constantly and I am sure you would say the same. She is very gentle and I have never had a problem. Each tarantula is different in personality regardless of the species. You can have a B. smithi that's aggressive and you can't handle or you can have a L. violaceopes that isn't aggressive. If you are unaware of this fact then you clearly don't have as much experience as you think you do
Given the fact that I have over 12 years of experience handling defensive T's and I have someone telling me that I shouldn't handle that doesn't or hasn't handled aggressive T's themselves I have every right to defend myself. If you have been there and done that then you can make statements that have relevance.Experience means nothing in this instance; no need to act like a jerk. An animal may at some point become defensive...at a time of their choosing, not ours...regardless of how many years we've been keeping them in glass or plastic boxes. Like it or not, none of us are special "spider whisperers" regardless of "experience". I don't usually get involved in the "handling vs. no handling" drama crap that happens on here, but the level of arrogance you're displaying here is a bit ridiculous.
Poec54 has doubled that amount of years in experience with ow Ts, if not more (if I'm not mistaking Poec54?)Given the fact that I have over 12 years of experience handling defensive T's and I have someone telling me that I shouldn't handle that doesn't or hasn't handled aggressive T's themselves I have every right to defend myself. If you have been there and done that then you can make statements that have relevance.
Again your opinion. I handle my T's responsibly and always over soft surfaces.Well, it really is your choice to handle or not, get bit, your problem, T dies because of handling, your problem.. and most of all your fault.. just like it is your choice.. anyhow I have to agree with poec54 here, in fact you are right, he is the 'know it all' if that is how you want to state it. Everyone knows stan with the massive collection of nw Ts that got bit countless times due from handling, and everyone knows poec54 with the huge collection consisting mainly of ow Ts, who never gor bit.. and regarding to experience, poec54 has been in this hobby for a LOT longer than you can actually think, and has way more experience with Ts than anyone else I have ever seen.. so I don't think you have any right talking about experience here. Just because you handle ow Ts , doesn't mean that you are experienced, in-fact its more on the irresponsible side.
Also just making a point here this was me showing my T in her new enclosure not a handling threadExperience means nothing in this instance; no need to act like a jerk. An animal may at some point become defensive...at a time of their choosing, not ours...regardless of how many years we've been keeping them in glass or plastic boxes. Like it or not, none of us are special "spider whisperers" regardless of "experience". I don't usually get involved in the "handling vs. no handling" drama crap that happens on here, but the level of arrogance you're displaying here is a bit ridiculous.
. I don't really care if you handle your Ts or not, none of my business personaly.. but stating that poec is "inexperienced" just because he doesn't handle, and because you don't know the experience he has is way off..Again your opinion. I handle my T's responsibly and always over soft surfaces.
I am not stating that he is an inexperienced keeper. I am however stating that he is an inexperienced handler because he clearly does not handle his OW tarantulas. So that does make him inexperienced with handling. End of discussion. I don't really care if you handle your Ts or not, none of my business personaly.. but stating that poec is "inexperienced" just because he doesn't handle, and because you don't know the experience he has is way off..