Foam background enclosure tutorial

Rhino1

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@Dorifto here's how my build looks: great stuff spray foam, gorilla glue and peat moss . Need to do drainage and then barrier, substrate, plants, then stock it View attachment 342428
Mate, that looks like a legit, creek embankment. Very natural, I like it.
Seems it must be the time for it, I've been doing one for my tree frogs, but I only get a bit done each day after work, I tried something new with this build and have made hollow logs from PVC pipe, need to just get it finished so I can plant it out and cycle it.
 

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You can post your build in this tutorial too, if you want! The more information, the better!!

Dart frogs are going to be in inhabitants. I was going for a side of the river look.
I'm having my frist mushrooms!

It's a symphtom of a healtly substrate. I hope that you will see them in your enclosure too.

Two days ago we had a huge storm, and yesterday had the first one. It means that micelios are growing well in the substrate, so it's a good sign of a healthy substrate.

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Poor porcelio leftovers and the cleaning crew in action. You can se two mushrooms too.

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They grew at the same time in both enclosures. So could be the storm the ignitor?



Ps: is ignitor the correct word to use? XD
 

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@Dorifto in my experience those shrooms will eventually take over the entire terrarium if you leave them in there to spore.
Yes, the rain definitely triggered those, I live in a tropical area and every year during the summer rains/wet season all of my bioactive vivariums will break out like crazy. I've also found if I leave the fungi to do it's thing, the shrooms and mycelium will take over. Sadly Ive had to pull apart many beautiful enclosures over the years and have found taking them out before they spore is the key to keeping the balance, they are so quick too, I will pull out shrooms in the morning and when I get home from work the vivarium will be loaded with full sized shrooms again.
 

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Yes they grow very quick, you can note the difference in minutes

It was so bad in you case? I read time ago that even taking them from the enclosure they will grow again to time to time, since the mycelium is stablished in the substrate, and the mushrooms are "the fruit" and the spores only contribute to propagate the mycelium to other areas.

In my case I just mimicked a storm in the enclosure, watering the enclosure and they thrive near the driftwood. They will die eventually when the organic wastes end, because they help to decompose that wastes.

I'm going to check how will they develop and I'll take a decision. People from dendroboards freaking out that they want mushrooms and we here taking them out hahhahahaaha.

Wich kind of enclosure setups did you have?
 

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Yes, the storm is the ignitor that's good enough English for me.
The bulk of my bioactive enclosures have been entirely feather moss on the sub, the first few times I left the mushrooms to do their thing/release spores, the mycelium seems to fill the substrate then start covering the moss and it looks really bad
 

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Yes, the storm is the ignitor that's good enough English for me.
The bulk of my bioactive enclosures have been entirely feather moss on the sub, the first few times I left the mushrooms to do their thing/release spores, the mycelium seems to fill the substrate then start covering the moss and it looks really bad
Thanks for the info!
It was live moss or the dry one. In my vivariums there is no mycelium where the java moss grows. Maybe the springtails and the isopods do they work hahahahaha or too much humidity?. Did you used springtails on them?

In my previous setup I used dry moss and after some watering I had a lot of mold on them. Maybe it could be that the dead/dry moss is a perfect enviroment to mold or mycelium to thrive in?
 

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You can post your build in this tutorial too, if you want! The more information, the better!!
Here it is. there's condensation on the glass from my misting system. 20200508_142000.jpg 20200508_141957.jpg
Plants are a neon pothos, a peperomia caperata, a peperomia obtusifolia, a an episcia (unsure what species though),
 

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Here it is. there's condensation on the glass from my misting system. View attachment 343776 View attachment 343778
Plants are a neon pothos, a peperomia caperata, a peperomia obtusifolia, a an episcia (unsure what species though),
Plants added to my future colection xD

Here it is. there's condensation on the glass from my misting system. View attachment 343776 View attachment 343778
Plants are a neon pothos, a peperomia caperata, a peperomia obtusifolia, a an episcia (unsure what species though),
Testing to solve that problem hahahaja, now I can control the temperature and humidity even better.

I'll make a tutorial as soon all the parts arrive.
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I'm looking to were install them, inside or outside. They will have a custom grill installed, so there is not going to be any type of hazard to the T, and two, because the T couldn't reach the fans too.

They fit perfectly between the top mesh gap

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Hi guys, seeing that some people are asking about how I made my setup, I´m going to make a litlle tuto about it. It may look difficult, but It was more easy than I thought.

The tools:
- A propper enclosure, I choosed the European style glass enclosures, since they are cheap, they have a great ventilation and are awesome looking enclosures.
- A cutter or a knife.
- Non expansive foam, they are different grades of expansive foams, take the less expansive one, the explansive ones can break your enclosure because of the pressure they can produce while expanding.
- Water based acrlilyc paint.
- Ultra fine grade joint mortar. I tried the regular one and doesn´t work in my case. I bought the ones used to seal bathroom tiles.
- Some rocks, I used volcanic ones, since they don´t weight so much. but you can skip this part.
- Some driftwood. I sourced mine in the shore after a big storm. You can find some awesome looking woods, and the most important, a lot of them are cured by de sun and the sea, but of course you need to clean and disinfect as much as possible.
- Some plants: you need to choose the right ones for your enclosure, looking to the needs of your T, humidity, substrate etc. In my case were: Chamaedorea elegans, some bromeliads, Nephrolepis, and my last addition was the java moss ( Vesicularia Dubyana).
- An organic substrate, whithout any types of fertilizers, pesticides etc, in my case I choosed, top soil, clay and sand. I also used some xaxim for the background.
- Bioactive agents, like springtails, dwarf isopods (trichorhina tormentosa), medium sized isopods (porcellios) and earth worms to maintain oxigenated the substrate.
- And the most important one, PATIENCE
Hey Dirifto, nice setups. What are the dimensions on these enclosures?
 

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Hey Dirifto, nice setups. What are the dimensions on these enclosures?
thank you!!

They are 60x40x40 euro type glass enclosures. You can make them at home asking to a local glazier some glass panels. I made one for about 40€

Since there is people who asked me about the enclosures, and looking that they are hard to find outside Europe, here is a drawing of the enclosure, if someone wants to do it himself. The measures are in cm, I tried to draw it in proportion but it isn't exact.

You can make it out of plexiglass or glass. I much preffer glass since it doesn't get scratched so easily and are easy to maintain.

One is lighter, but the other is stronger.

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Final results:

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Moss (Vesicularia Dubyana)

Before:
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After:

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A little trick to help the moss spreading.

Take a chunk of moss, put it in a blender, add a little bit of buttermilk and water, 1-4 proportion. Chop it with the blender.

Take the small pieces of moss and spread across the remaining surface. Keep it humid.

After 2 month testing the fans, now I can recommend them without hesitation.

They can be helpfull for species who need great ventilation, like avics etc. Also they can help to decrease the temperature or to maintain a stable humidity levels.

Total cost of the system was 20 bucks, pretty cheap and effective. The fans are dead silent, since they are ball bearing fans, even at full power, you can't barely hear any noise. They do not vibrate, so less strees for the T.

They fit perfectly in my vivarium ventilation grill, without needing any adhesives or screws at all. Since the top gap has 80mm you can fit 80mm fans by pressing them in the gap. You can install them on your enclosures gluing them with hot glue or silicon. They can be installed to introduce new fresh air or to extract warmed air, by flipping the fan.

The system:

The fans: Gdstime 12v ball bearing
#Aliexpress € 5,52 20%OFF | 2 unidades Gdstime 5V 12V 24V 80mm 80mm x 80mm x 10mm ventilador de la caja de la computadora PC Latop CPU manga del ventilador de enfriamiento/rodamiento de bolas USB/2PIN/3PIN ventilador

The safety mesh:
#Aliexpress € 4,88 20%OFF | 2 uds Gdstime 80mm 8cm espesar aluminio a prueba de polvo filtro rejilla protector de malla para PC ventilador con cubierta

The screws:
#Aliexpress € 0,63 7%OFF | 20 unids/pack DS743 chapado negro 5*10mm-tornillos de rosca ventilador con cubierta sin tornillos Rusia envío

The controller: 12v pc controller
#Aliexpress € 6,85 24%OFF | Controlador de velocidad del ventilador de 4 canales HDD PC de 3,5 pulgadas con Panel frontal de Controlador LED azul/rojo para ventiladores de computadora X6HA

The sata 4 pin adapter:
#Aliexpress € 7,25 10%OFF | 12V + 5V 2.5A AC adaptador de corriente para disco duro IDE de 4 pines HDD convertidor de CD-ROM SATA convertidor de fuente de alimentación negro

And some velcro.

The installation is straight forward, plug everything and voilá 😂😂😂 I don't think that I have to explain how to screw the mesh hahahaha.

The result:

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The next step will be to install a switch in the fan controller, this way you don't need to unplug the power adapter to switch off, in case that you don't have any thermostat or hygrostat.

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A little update on how behaves and evolves the enclosure.

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I promise that the misting system tutorial is going to be posted soon!!

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I never use foam backgrounds, don't like them...but dang brother, yours are different...just spectacular. There is just so much more to them than just a foam wall. Nice work.
 

Dorifto

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Thanks!!!! Really appreciated! 😉

The primary idea was to prevent them from chewing the foam background, don't tell me why, but they love to chew exo terra style ones 🤣🤣🤣

But over time they look way better, more natural, as they develop a natural patina, like in real rocks. Also, they weight nothing compared to real ones 🤣🤣🤣

The patina is visible here, top right.

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These tanks look amazing, probably the best I have ever seen. But this is not ideal for a terrestrial tarantula.

How do you prevent the tarantula from climbing and potentially falling from the top of the enclosure?
 

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These tanks look amazing, probably the best I have ever seen.
Thanks!!! 😉

But this is not ideal for a terrestrial tarantula.
Not so fast!!! XD

How do you prevent the tarantula from climbing and potentially falling from the top of the enclosure?
Legit question!!!

And the answer is simple: the enclosure themselves.

Provide them all or most of the spots that cover their needs and they won't look outside for them. Pretty simple.

Most of the issues involving Ts climbing are because improper conditions or because the T is kept without enough gradients. So solving this issue, you prevent 99% of Ts climbing their enclosures, not counting mature males of course.

Another reason, the ventilation system they have. If the T feels any air current with better conditions coming from the top, where usually most enclosures have their vent holes, what are going to do? Correct, climb. Those enclosures have a lower and narrower vent grille, and a top bigger one, no side vents. How they work? By convection, the cold and drier air enters down low, and exits from the top (warmer and more humid (both lighter)), so the only air current they actually feel, comes from the bottom grille. Solving another issue. I made some experiments regarding this issue, and everytime that I inverted the fans on warm days, both ts where atracted to that area automatically, trying to reach the fans. No big issue as I figured out that scenario, so beneath there are two soft plants that will absob the fall in the worst scenario. Don't worry it doesn't happen.

Also using led lights helps a lot, as they do not emit enough heat to trigger climbing behaviours. All of this won't work if I put I heat source on top :troll:

Now, If you are asking if my Ts climb the glass, no, they don't. Sometimes the pulchra webs a bit higher (<1xDLS) raising the butt , always at the same spot, left corner bottom side. I'd be the first one discarting the enclosures if I saw those behaviours, specially on front doors.
 

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I did a little research online after I happened on this post. What brand of enclosure is this? I am not finding anything similar in my area except perhaps what they sell for Dart frogs. I searched euro-style terrariums but it is possible I am not getting the best results.
 
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