id needed - WC species in singapore

[misfitsfiend]

I'm thinking Isometrus krasenskyi

judging this based on:
-ST granulation
-univerally yellow legs w/o spotting

I. formosa, will have spotted legs and a the ST is not sharply pointed... its rather wide and rounded.

Isometus Key (PDF format)


it is definately NOT I. maculatus... I have a bunch of those


the second:
Chaerilus species

likely Chaerilus rectimanus judging on size and chela

It was just a guess on the species. It wasnt really serious. I just knew it couldnt be centruroides and it looked like a species of Isometrus. so I took a guess... there was no real reasearch involved

 

[TheNothing]

it is a really tough call
but this is what I saw after a lil playing with paintshop

 

[Scorpfanatic]

WOW! so much goign on! i was jus off my comp for say 2 days? any way both specimen is eating well and seems to be quite comfortable in captivity..

the second is chaerilus rectimanus . it is a natrive species, as for the second one some long time hobbist from singapore told me that singapore do have suck species. but this, obviusly is not the isometris species stated in the scorpion fauna.... :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :? :? :?

its the first that im still puzzling about... hehe thanks issac for the time and effort to study my low quality picture.. i hope to take some more quality pic tomorrow and post them. thanks every one. and sorry for all that trouble im jus really puzzled. will be goign back to the same forest to find some more...

 

[G. Carnell]

Not sure if this has been brought up before, but here is the invaluble page on scorpions of singapore from Kian Wee
http://members.tripod.com/~c_kianwee/local.htm

looks remarcably like the last one..


if you could contact Kian Wee, maybe he could help you, but last time i contacted him he was very busy, and leaving the hobby, and this was ~2 years ago

 

[Scorpfanatic]

i think ive found the closest match,,,

http://members.tripod.com/~c_kianwee/images/Imaculatusvt.jpg

thanks for the page but like the paragraph had said he (kianwee) hadnt really ID yet him self till then now this scop is Isometrus maculatus ! woo hoo!:clap:

 

[TheNothing]

i'm telling you, that is NOT an I. maculatus.
the picture Kian Wee has to the left of the picture you're looking at IS an I. maculatus, but not the one on the right

a bunch of I. maculatus pictures

 

[Scorpfanatic]

is this female! i wana mate them!

haha yah after while i realise that it shouldnt be I. maculatus, and the pic on the right most resembles the one i have but he also had yet to determine the species.

anyway new updates dudes! ive caught MORE! the isometrus sp i think i got a female.. posting pic for you guys to help me determine , if it is indeed a female should i mate them soon? they r both eating well.i guess its native since now i got two?? hehe and the location i foudn them are like more then 500m apart. i cutted up a rotten to get this female(hopefully!) if not are they communel? can keep together? almost the same size though... i hope im not wrong to say that the other i jus caught is femle im keeping all my fingers cross it is!

femaLE ON THE left

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/33.jpg

bottem view- female

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/35.jpg

male under view

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/37.jpg

side view- note. shorter tail and only only one sting(male has two)

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/41.jpg

male side- for your comparing ease!

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/27.jpg

male eaing top view - i love this photo though.. hehe

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/29.jpg


as for the Chaerilus rectimanus, i got 2 more but sling real small, i took a pic of them under a ruler scale is 1mm... hehe.. i guess this species is relatively small,

the slings i jus caught- two

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/45.jpg

the first one i caught - eating pic

http://individualistic.multiply.com/photos/photo/29/25.jpg

g,carnell.- Kian wee had left the hobby.. i have contact with one of his close hobbist(only pede and Ts carzy).... i dono if i can try to contact kian wee through him...

hei guys wat about the last unnamed species on the bottom of the kianwee page http://members.tripod.com/~c_kianwee/local.htm, althoiugh the pic is poor but i still can make out the colour tone and the propotion of the long tail toward the body length? any chance!

found some funny thing this time round. including a Ts nesting area hehe many many sling there.. check out my journal! ENJOY! and thanks for all your help!!!

 

[Prymal]

Walton,

Don't know about the Isometrus sp. but that Chaerilus is very nice!

Luc

 

[TheNothing]

hmmm
i think i need to find that Lychas revision...
I see tibial spurs!

 

[Prymal]

Isaac,

Unfortunately, I have the Hemilychas & Lychas revision but cannot scan it and send because my scanner's down. I do have the Isometrus revision on my comp if anyone's interested?

Luc

 

[Prymal]

Isaac,

I can tell you this from memory - if it has tibial spurs on legs III & IV, it's not Isometrus, as Isometrus do not have tibial spurs.

Luc

 

[TheNothing]

Right, thats why i mentioned the Lychas revision
i've made that mistake between the two before

 

[Prymal]

Isaac,

Yeah, not too hard to do.

Luc

 

[fusion121]

it is a really tough call
but this is what I saw after a lil playing with paintshop

I'll take your word for it , its a tough one to pick out the detail on.

as for the Chaerilus rectimanus, i got 2 more but sling real small, i took a pic of them under a ruler scale is 1mm... hehe.. i guess this species is relatively small,

Yes, Chaerilus are very small, it makes them difficult to feed when they are sub-adult

 

[Scorpfanatic]

hi guys.. so is the ontehr one a possilbel female? can i put them topgether? are they communel?

oh and yes if you guys need more photos (close up ) on any part of the scorpion. let me know i will take them and post it for you - hope my equipment and skill is uop to it though i will try my very best!@

 

[Prymal]

Walton,

If you can, photograph walking legs III & IV in close-up. Let's see if this puppy is indeed, Isometrus or Lychas.

Luc

 

[Scorpfanatic]

ok will do... i will try to take and post as soon as possible..

are they communel? u think its adviseable i put the two together??? or maybe later??? i really would like to find out if its a pair so may be i can try to breed them . ~
regards
thanks

 

[Prymal]

Walton,

I've kept Lychas mucronatus together without preoblems. I have no experience with any Isometrus spp. Sorry.
So, let's determine generic placement then, worry about getting him some tail! LOL

Luc

 

[Scorpfanatic]

hm... wat you mean worry about getting him some tauil? haha so sorry i cant understand haha any ways
wat is a safe way or a good way to try to house them together? any signs i must take note to prevent any fights if they cant get along? how do i see even if they can get along???

so sorry i only have exp in h. spinifers so i only have two of this species and i don wan anything ot happen to them! thanks alot Luc!@

 

[skinheaddave]

A Lychas that measures 9cm? Not necessarily impossible, so I will await a more solid determination -- but I am skeptical to say the least.

Cheers,
Dave