Now i am a criminal

[Ratmosphere]

That is unfortunate.

 

[Tim Benzedrine]

I regret that it did not end well for you and the spiders.

 

[Jeff23]

Finally finally they finished my case. Well that took a looooong long time, just to find out that i lost.. pooop

So this is how they look at it. ( Inhale, breed out ) Here it comes.

According to their rules i have to get veterinary papers on all kinds of invertebrates going to Denmark with the cost of 80$ If i dont, i will get a fine every time they catch my packages in the Danish customs. Hehe, well they`ll have to catch them first They dont check all packages, lucky for me. But again it is like playing Russian roulette right

So that would say that i will have to get... Lets say a German breeder to go to his local vet to get the spiders checked and pay 80$ for that before shipping them to me. Well of course the check is on me. But seriously why would he bother doing just that and use precious time on that, well aware that he can send spiders to a lot other countries without the vet check. I DONT THINK SOO...

Ohh yeah and they did infact kill my spiders they had in quarantine.. Jack asses

I am very close to moving away from this godforsaken country, NO JOKE..

Case closed. Cant even complaint about their poopy decision, well that makes me sick

This is sad and I am sorry for your pain and losses.

In the USA we have multiple doctors that we call Quacks that will prescribe drugs to almost anyone for a payment. Of course these doctors are evil and at risk of becoming murderers or at the least guilty of essentially being drug dealers. Looking at veterinarians, in a similar but opposite perspective, I wonder if there is a risk for ones who are sympathetic to the idea of helping true T lovers that can/will do the papers without having a risk to their own career? I know it has been said there is no such test, but the question is whether the government would challenge a vet that says the spider is safe and healthy. Of course this would only be financially worth it for a female spider that can be bred to get your money back since the doctor plus government bureaucracy fee would not be cheap.

 

[evilebe]

Welcome to the jungle.

 

[cold blood]

Welcome to the jungle.

 

[Ceymann]

Oh must have read it wrong. Still, I don't understand how they can kill them.

Not sure how it works in Europe, but I assume their reasoning is to prevent parasites and diseases being passed on to local fauna, which with captive kept T's is a bit ridiculous considering its Denmark. I remember a news story about Germany getting upset about Justin Beibers pet capuchin monkey for the same reasons, same with the Australian gov't and Johnny Depps dogs.
But with Ts its ridiculous.

Louise-My heart is heavy for you, what a sucky situation. Very sorry for your troubles.

 

[Storm76]

I would've been upset not about the monkey but the owner but anways...

It makes no sense to ask a vetenarian to do a "health-check" on a tarantula since science itself hasn't even progresses far enough to discern what kind of sicknesses are there really. I'm guessing this is more to exclude these animals from carrying other kind of bacteria/germs/viruses that could harm humans. Still, even the vets over here don't know what to do with a "tarantula" other than inspect if they are mite-free, have no visible injuries and that's that. You'd probably have the same problem over here, or anywhere else really.

 

[JAFUENTES]

Unfortunately there's not much one can do as in terms of tarantula health checks. Maybe if it were possible to send a series of known external ailments to look out for, inform the vet's than maybe you could get a few of your tarantula's back with the required paperwork. Also getting a few other influences to check the list might work. But very slim however. Forgive me if it doesn't make sense, however what there putting you through is absurd @louise f . Also proof that they haven't harmed anyone that had the proper experience to deal with them might help as well. After all your more likely to be killed by a kid sized dog than a tarantula of any species.

 

[Ceymann]

Unfortunately there's not much one can do as in terms of tarantula health checks. Maybe if it were possible to send a series of known external ailments to look out for, inform the vet's than maybe you could get a few of your tarantula's back with the required paperwork. Also getting a few other influences to check the list might work. But very slim however. Forgive me if it doesn't make sense, however what there putting you through is absurd @louise f . Also proof that they haven't harmed anyone that had the proper experience to deal with them might help as well. After all your more likely to be killed by a kid sized dog than a tarantula of any species.

Again, the customs actions have nothing to do with them worrying about the spiders hurting people, it is more so do with the fear of introducing exotic pathogens, parasites or disease into the local fauna, which again, esp with CB T's is pretty ridiculous, as much as it sucks, and unwarranted with CB T's, protocols are protocols and customs are pretty strict about that stuff. Which is why they are requiring a "clean bill of health" from a vet, which with T's is joke, vets have 0 way to determine this and issue their approval.
Very unfortunate case of ignorance on the customs end of it. poor little T's :-(

 

[magicmed]

Finally finally they finished my case. Well that took a looooong long time, just to find out that i lost.. pooop

So this is how they look at it. ( Inhale, breed out ) Here it comes.

According to their rules i have to get veterinary papers on all kinds of invertebrates going to Denmark with the cost of 80$ If i dont, i will get a fine every time they catch my packages in the Danish customs. Hehe, well they`ll have to catch them first They dont check all packages, lucky for me. But again it is like playing Russian roulette right

So that would say that i will have to get... Lets say a German breeder to go to his local vet to get the spiders checked and pay 80$ for that before shipping them to me. Well of course the check is on me. But seriously why would he bother doing just that and use precious time on that, well aware that he can send spiders to a lot other countries without the vet check. I DONT THINK SOO...

Ohh yeah and they did infact kill my spiders they had in quarantine.. Jack asses

I am very close to moving away from this godforsaken country, NO JOKE..

Case closed. Cant even complaint about their poopy decision, well that makes me sick

Seriously? I joined the thread late (sorry) but this is ridiculous!

I'm so sorry they are such idiots...wow..

You need to move to America join the cool kids here you would be an AMAZING addition to the US tarantula hobby

screw Denmark -.-

 

[Andrea82]

Stupid law enforcers...can't believe the outcome of this, and making you lose your spiders as well!

Maybe it would be a good idea to find out if the people you sell or buy from are willing to do this. It shouldn't be too hard to get a vet to agree on the health of a spiders, since the knowledge is so limited.

But it still sucks.

 

[Blue Jaye]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. That's just horrible. That would make me want to pack up and move too. @louise f time to come this way where shipping is much better and easier.

 

[magicmed]

See? There's 2 suggestions to move to the US! Start packing

@Chris LXXIX were coming for you next, say goodbye to Italy

 

[louise f]

Hehe, well dont tempt me @magicmed and @Blue Jaye maybe i will

 

[magicmed]

Hehe, well dont tempt me @magicmed and @Blue Jaye maybe i will

We have ice cream and candy!

*continues tempting*

Plus we don't kill your spiders, that's a plus you know

 

[louise f]

Not sure how it works in Europe, but I assume their reasoning is to prevent parasites and diseases being passed on to local fauna, which with captive kept T's is a bit ridiculous considering its Denmark.

Exactly, it is ridiculous. Like how the hell should a T infect humans with anything. Keep shaking my head over this. The rules here in Denmark suck.

haha you are not even allowed to walk around with a pocket knife unless it is so small that it cant really do harm. Jesus christ the government here are so careful with everything. uhhhh huuu poor little Denmark, if they smell any danger in anything they make it illegal pronto.
That is why the black widow, huge anacondas, gaboon vipers, sicarius, the brown recluse, phoneutria sp.. are not allowed here. And a whole other stuff to, i wont write because it would take several pages
I am telling you people DONT and I mean dont ever move to Denmark unless you love all the stupid rules of everything. Well i am sick of all these rules.

 

[JAFUENTES]

Exactly, it is ridiculous. Like how the hell should a T infect humans with anything. Keep shaking my head over this. The rules here in Denmark suck.

haha you are not even allowed to walk around with a pocket knife unless it is so small that it cant really do harm. Jesus christ the government here are so careful with everything. uhhhh huuu poor little Denmark, if they smell any danger in anything they make it illegal pronto.
That is why the black widow, huge anacondas, gaboon vipers, sicarius, the brown recluse, phoneutria sp.. are not allowed here. And a whole other stuff to, i wont write because it would take several pages
I am telling you people DONT and I mean dont ever move to Denmark unless you love all the stupid rules of everything. Well i am sick of all these rules.

Move to the USA.

 

[JAFUENTES]

Again, the customs actions have nothing to do with them worrying about the spiders hurting people, it is more so do with the fear of introducing exotic pathogens, parasites or disease into the local fauna, which again, esp with CB T's is pretty ridiculous, as much as it sucks, and unwarranted with CB T's, protocols are protocols and customs are pretty strict about that stuff. Which is why they are requiring a "clean bill of health" from a vet, which with T's is joke, vets have 0 way to determine this and issue their approval.
Very unfortunate case of ignorance on the customs end of it. poor little T's :-(

Have them do a swab on the tarantula's fangs since that would be the most likely place for any pathogens to hide. I'm just trying to find a loophole for such a terrible situation.

 

[Ceymann]

Have them do a swab on the tarantula's fangs since that would be the most likely place for any pathogens to hide. I'm just trying to find a loophole for such a terrible situation.

Interesting, it would have to be preformed by a vet or some type of specialist, then the cost of all such work would be immense. Also, to customs officials, we are just little people and they really don't care whether we receive our animals or not, they are not going to go out of their way for one of us plebs.
crappy crappy situation

 

[Chris LXXIX]

@Chris LXXIX were coming for you next, say goodbye to Italy

Ah ah, that would never happen my man :-s

The reason why I'm "here" (not here on this site, alive and breathing, lol, I mean) is because my Mother in the '60 when she was not even a teen, refused to move in the US where lived (and still live today) the 60% of her family. She wanted to remain in Italy.

I lived in the U.S for months in 1990. East Coast to the West one (California, mostly between South S.F to Redwood City), Saint Louis, Florida from Orlando to Miami, Nevada.

Honestly? Enough and I think I have "already given" the part of my life involving the U.S

I miss to an extent only Lake Tahoe... the lake, those mountains and trees. Had a somewhat "home feeling" since Northern Lombardy wild is IMO lovely.